Mac Pro Configuration : best performance config. using FCP with Doremi's Cine Export
What would be the best Mac Pro configuration option to bring up the most performance(speed) of FCP generating KDM(Key Delivery Message) and DCP(Digital Cinema Package) for cinema use?
Is new Mac Pro compatible with Doremi's Cine Export software? if not i would have to use the previous version of Mac Pro(tower) and would also need the best configuration for this one too!
here's the link for Doremi's Cine Export software - http://www.doremilabs.com/products/cinema-products/cineexport/
I'm not sure if the software above is compatible with FCP X version, because they used to support for FCP 7 only in the previous software...
Anyhow, I'm just starter and I don't have much knowledge about setting up post house, and so.. I'll be glad to take all the feed backs and recommandations from all of you(experts in post production)
Thank you
James,
CineExport has not yet been tested with the latest Mac Pro hardware but it has been tested with the latest Mac OSX Mavericks. There is no reason to believe it wouldn't work with the latest Mac Pro hardware. With that said, CineExport is mostly CPU dependent, so the fastest configuration with the most processing cores is recommended.
CineExport is a plug-in for Compressor, not Final Cut Pro. Therefore, it is compatible with FCP 7 and FCP X in the sense that you can use the FCP "Send to Compressor" option and export your DCP from Compressor (using the CineExport plug-in).
Doremi Labs
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