Mac Pro Dual3 to replace my PMG4 1.25

Hi
I'm looking into getting a Dual 3Ghz Mac Pro, but was wondering if there were still any "known issues" seeing as this is still the first release of a Xeon powered Mac. I'll be using it for Logic via a Focusrite Saffire for my band stuff. Is it worth waiting (for god knows when) for the next release or has this model been revised since it was launched in August? I'm getting 2x 23" HD displays with it, I've heard about the pinking problems but that should ok as I've heard the screens been revised...
The only reason that I ask if its worth waiting for a newer model of the Mac Pro is because of STABILITY rather than being one of those "people" who's only concern is having the fastest processor god created...
Thanks

Hi, like you, stability was my top priority when upgrading - I do some scientific work on my Mac Pro and it replaced a rock-solid (yet not that powerful) Unix machine I was very funned of.
Anyway, it seems like a very stable Hardware/Software combination for now (particularly after the 10.4.8 upgrade which solved a few glitches) and you could say its being abused beyond the wildest dreams of Apple engineers (24/7 multiple users and multi-platform network environment).
The thing to check before really jumping in is software availability (in Universal – and stable releases) and its stability with your preferred Hardware configuration. Post your specifics for the forum and see if anyone is already there.
All taken into account, I can’t and won’t guaranty anything but as far as my experience goes it’s a safe move.
Good Luck, Baryo.

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