Mac Pro Early 2008 Power Up Issue
Hey Everyone,
This is my first post so please excuse my ignorance on the process.
Anywho, so my problem is this. I have an Early 2008 Mac Pro, that when it is on it runs great. My biggest issue is that I installed the ATI RADEON 5770 and installed lion on the same day. Ever since that day the computer has issues with powering on. Basically what happens is I hit the power button, nothing happens, then I pull the power cord, plug it back in, and the computer starts up with zero issues.
Any idea what the cause could be?
If not I am just going to bring it in and pay for it to be fixed, but wanted to check with you guys first.
-JC
What are you trying to run with?
Two 5870s? something else?
there are only the two 6-pin aux connectors. It isn't built for 8-pin or 4 x 6.
You can add/stuff a PSU 450W into optical bay, you can find 6-pin splitter and as long as you don't OD.
I assume 8800/4870 or something and now want ????
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Hello (hopefully someone can shed some light on my issue)
I own as above a MAC PRO (Early 2008) this has a RAID card installed along with two 15k.7 cheetah hdd (320gb) and a spare drive, (which i made a regular drive)
a while ago i had to replace the RAID card battery, so i did this, over a year later the same thing happened again, but as previous just left it and the system seemed fine for ages, until last night i was working in PHOTOSHOP and everything just froze and the screen kind of appeared GREEN, could not do a single thing. So restarted the mac, this time grey screen for ages and a message appeared, (macs version of blue screen) (see attached).
I restarted the machine and this time a flashing question mark folder!
could not do a thing.
so i found my copy of snow leopard and got the computer to run this and at least launch the DISK UTILITY and (Interestingly in the drop down menu RAID UTILITY was also in the menu) but it did not matter which utility i used the (RAID or DISK) neither could see any of drives, just the dvd drive.
so looked around on you tube and various forums and discovered if i take out the RAID CARD and re-plug the main lead from the RAID card back in to the LOGIC BOARD I would be reverting the MAC to a normal regular non-RAID computer.
After performing this HARDWARE task and inserting all three HDD, and running the DISK utility from the drop down menu via the SNOW LEOPARD disc.
(interestingly since the RAID card had been removed the RAID UTILITY from the drop down menu no longer appeared). running disk utility I can now only see the regular (spare) hdd and DVD Drive, but the two RAID HDD , again, still do not show up DISK UTILITY?
O.K. so i could chuck out the RAID card (AND RAID HDD) and just go with a regular set-up, and run a back restore from Time Machine on a NEW hdd purchased.
but what is wrong with the RAID, is the card at fault or are both HDD used for the RAID knackered? can i perform any tests, to see whats what?
thanks for your help in advanced.hello people, the issue was in fact the GRAPHICS card nothing to do with the HDD or RAID system ( although this did cause issues with the RAID system it basically lost its way) below is my replay to another similar problem some one else had!
working in photoshop and then everything stopped working and the lot froze! only option was to force shutdown (via button).
and try to restart, hoping all was fine, this was not the case :-(
I had the added issue of the RAID card system, that i have, this was confused to say the lease and would not behave or work, causing the start up to hang.
so i thought the HDD must be bust and the root cause. ( but soon learnt it was not the cause )
...bought a new HDD removed the RAID card and replugged the cable from RAID card into LOGIC board, ( making the computer act like any normal non-RAID system). I managed to install the OSX, using the snow leopard disk way. once the mac was running, i started to notice the screen would flicker and started to see 'artefacts'. so i started to reveal my symptoms to the web and forums and soon discovered that my graphics card could be the issue all along?.
(nvidia geforce 8800gt 2x dvi).
I read up on that a fix, could be either A. reply the thermal paste, as the card could be over heating or B. stick the card in the oven trick.
Tried option A. first and nothing still issues, so last night took the plunge carried out option B. and ta da it worked! i even managed to run
from my new HDD my lasted install OS X, absolutely fine. I then thought, maybe i could repair my RAID so replugged all the HARDWARD back in and
carried out a disk repair and disk permissions on drives( took a small amount of time), via the SNOW LEOPARD disc - (Disk utilities) and this worked and now have my system working as it was just over 6 days ago.
what was the cost to get this? bought a new hdd so 40.00gbp and thermal paste and cleaner kit ( your still need to do this ) search video card trick on you tube.
and renew thermal paste, approx 15.00gbp, technically i don't need the new HDD, but it was all part of the trial and error way i went. ( i do have extra storage as a result!)" -
I need at least 3 6 pins to power a card, but it seems that there are only 2? Is there a 3rd one somewhere that I can't visibly see (or even unplug one of the fans) or am I out of luck with my Mac Pro?
What are you trying to run with?
Two 5870s? something else?
there are only the two 6-pin aux connectors. It isn't built for 8-pin or 4 x 6.
You can add/stuff a PSU 450W into optical bay, you can find 6-pin splitter and as long as you don't OD.
I assume 8800/4870 or something and now want ???? -
Mac Pro early 2008 power off suddenly alone and gives a long beep on startup
Hello everyone! Can you resolve the problem reported? I have 6 equipaments identical to those with the same problem, some worse than others, and only two barely functioning, others are stopped. They power normally and suddenly alone they power off , and after that I only can power on again , after hours waiting or only the next day , and when it's power on , on startup , they give me a long beep , before the chime , then I can work for a time (minutes or long time , it's not secure)
I talked with Apple Computer (from USA) and they do not assume that the problem exists and that many users have the same problem, worldwide.
If you're not satisfied with the result of Apple, we will have to press them to assume the defect and promote a recall on these equipments. We have many users with the same issue (MacPro off alone)All places where I have my equipments (they are in 4 different places, but I have tested them in all four locations), are electrically grounded, the electrical networkstabilized, reviewed annually and I use UPS minimum of 1.5 KVA (I have two UPS of 3.75 KVA) . I tested with the original HDD , with all the applications that I use installed , only with the system installed and the same procedure on a new HDD and got the same result . So , it is not eletrical problem . I have iMacs , MacBooks , G5 and MacPro early 2009 working in the same places with no problems . I tested all the sites with three different electricians and all
approved my Electric networks . As I know, all Apple equipment have
surge protection, precisely to prevent thecomponents from being damaged
by electrical problems. Again , it is not eletrical problem . -
Mac Pro (Early 2008) and HP LP3065 30" display compatibility issue
Hello!
Is there FIX / Workaround to Mac Pro (Early 2008) and HP LP3065 30" display compatibility issue ? ( +w/ ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT display adapter+ ). Its really annoying problem :-/.
Main problem is when i start my Mac, my 30" HP screen dosen't wake up, it always on suspend mode. Sometimes it wakes up on the 3rd try orso, sometimes it ruins my motivation, ideas and i give up (talk about inspiration killer). If i connect PC Laptop to that screen, sreen wakes up straight away. ATI says display adapters "drivers" are included on the OSX install. Great. Weird thing is i didn't recognize this problem at all 6-8 months ago, so i thought my system is fine. So i can't return my HP screen anymore.
My choices are to buy another 30" screen or buy different display adapter; there's two choices atm i think;
*-ATI Radeon HD 3870 512MB PCI-E for Mac Pro (~200€)*
*-EVGA GeForce GTX 285 Mac Edition 1GB (~500€)* (this one has seperate OSX drivers).
_Can anyone confirm if those display adapters work with HP 3065 30" screen ?._
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=687624
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=9388978
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1794155&tstart=60
Br,
PetriThanks for all information. I haven't been Mac user very long . I just want to get rid of my annoying problem. I'll do music composing mainly on my Mac Pro. So, it dosen't really matter what display card i'm using, i want to just make sure it works with HP 3065 .
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Can't install montain lion, mavericks or yosemite on my mac pro early 2008 8core
I tried installing mountain lion mavericks and yosemite on my mac pro early 2008 I upgraded the video card to see if that was the problems and still the same the problem is that after installing even during install the mouse moves super slow and the keyboard won't work at all so I can't entern
any information this is with a clean install and even if I update lion it does the same everything works fine on lion 10.7.5 problems there does any one know what could be the issue here? I'm only running one monitor and its the 30 inch cinema display here are the specst of my machine excuse my grammar and spelling it was never my favorite subject
Model Name: Mac Pro
Model Identifier: MacPro3,1
Processor Name: Quad-Core Intel Xeon
Processor Speed: 2.8 GHz
Number of Processors: 2
Total Number of Cores: 8
L2 Cache (per Processor): 12 MB
Memory: 8 GB
Bus Speed: 1.6 GHz
Boot ROM Version: MP31.006C.B05
SMC Version (system): 1.25f4
Serial Number (system): G881111VXYK
Hardware UUID: 714C0BE4-9A35-5C33-BF74-0F55F7C31B5F
AMD Radeon HD 6870:
Chipset Model: AMD Radeon HD 6870
Type: GPU
Bus: PCIe
Slot: Slot-1
PCIe Lane Width: x16
VRAM (Total): 1024 MB
Vendor: ATI (0x1002)
Device ID: 0x6738
Revision ID: 0x0000
ROM Revision: 007-NETKAS-ORG
EFI Driver Version: 01.00.507
Displays:
Cinema HD:
Display Type: LCD
Resolution: 2560 x 1600
Pixel Depth: 32-Bit Color (ARGB8888)
Display Serial Number: CY03018WXMP
Main Display: Yes
Mirror: Off
Online: Yes
Rotation: Supported
ECC: Enabled
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Size: 2 GB
Type: DDR2 FB-DIMM
Speed: 667 MHz
Status: OK
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Part Number: 0x5453324741504D41435038502D5420202020
Serial Number: 0x00031CFB
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Size: 2 GB
Type: DDR2 FB-DIMM
Speed: 667 MHz
Status: OK
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Part Number: 0x5453324741504D41435038502D5420202020
Serial Number: 0x00031CFB
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Size: 1 GB
Type: DDR2 FB-DIMM
Speed: 667 MHz
Status: OK
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Serial Number: 0x01431026
DIMM Riser A/DIMM 2:
Size: 1 GB
Type: DDR2 FB-DIMM
Speed: 667 MHz
Status: OK
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Part Number: 0x48594D5035313241373243503844332D5935
Serial Number: 0x57656411
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Type: Empty
Speed: Empty
Status: Empty
Manufacturer: Empty
Part Number: Empty
Serial Number: Empty
DIMM Riser A/DIMM 3:
Size: 1 GB
Type: DDR2 FB-DIMM
Speed: 667 MHz
Status: OK
Manufacturer: 0x80AD
Part Number: 0x48594D5035313241373243503844332D5335
Serial Number: 0x01172313
DIMM Riser A/DIMM 4:
Size: 1 GB
Type: DDR2 FB-DIMM
Speed: 667 MHz
Status: OK
Manufacturer: 0x80AD
Part Number: 0x48594D5035313241373243503844332D5335
Serial Number: 0x01172714
Intel ESB2 AHCI:
Vendor: Intel
Product: ESB2 AHCI
Link Speed: 3 Gigabit
Negotiated Link Speed: 3 Gigabit
Description: AHCI Version 1.10 Supported
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Capacity: 500.11 GB (500,107,862,016 bytes)
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HD:
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WDC WD5000AAKS-00A7B0:
Capacity: 500.11 GB (500,107,862,016 bytes)
Model: WDC WD5000AAKS-00A7B0
Revision: 01.03B01
Serial Number: WD-WMASY0158891
Native Command Queuing: Yes
Queue Depth: 32
Removable Media: No
Detachable Drive: No
BSD Name: disk2
Medium Type: Rotational
Bay Name: Bay 1
Partition Map Type: GPT (GUID Partition Table)
S.M.A.R.T. status: Verified
Volumes:
disk2s1:
Capacity: 209.7 MB (209,715,200 bytes)
BSD Name: disk2s1
Content: EFI
HD:
Capacity: 499.25 GB (499,248,103,424 bytes)
Available: 484.82 GB (484,820,348,928 bytes)
Writable: Yes
File System: Journaled HFS+
BSD Name: disk2s2
Mount Point: /Volumes/HD
Content: Apple_HFS
Recovery HD:
Capacity: 650 MB (650,002,432 bytes)
BSD Name: disk2s3
Content: Apple_Boot
Intel ESB2 AHCI:
Vendor: Intel
Product: ESB2 AHCI
Link Speed: 3 Gigabit
Negotiated Link Speed: 3 Gigabit
Description: AHCI Version 1.10 Supported
HDS725050KLA360:
Capacity: 500.11 GB (500,107,862,016 bytes)
Model: HDS725050KLA360
Revision: K2AOAB5A
Serial Number: KRVN67ZBHBEEAH
Native Command Queuing: Yes
Queue Depth: 32
Removable Media: No
Detachable Drive: No
BSD Name: disk1
Medium Type: Rotational
Bay Name: Bay 2
Partition Map Type: MBR (Master Boot Record)
S.M.A.R.T. status: Verified
Volumes:
UNTITLED 1:
Capacity: 500.11 GB (500,107,860,992 bytes)
Available: 449.41 GB (449,412,988,928 bytes)
Writable: Yes
File System: MS-DOS FAT32
BSD Name: disk1s1
Mount Point: /Volumes/UNTITLED 1
Content: DOS_FAT_32
HDS725050KLA360:
Capacity: 500.11 GB (500,107,862,016 bytes)
Model: HDS725050KLA360
Revision: K2AOAB5A
Serial Number: KRVN67ZBHBEEAH
Native Command Queuing: Yes
Queue Depth: 32
Removable Media: No
Detachable Drive: No
BSD Name: disk1
Medium Type: Rotational
Bay Name: Bay 2
Partition Map Type: MBR (Master Boot Record)
S.M.A.R.T. status: Verified
Volumes:
UNTITLED 1:
Capacity: 500.11 GB (500,107,860,992 bytes)
Available: 449.41 GB (449,412,988,928 bytes)
Writable: Yes
File System: MS-DOS FAT32
BSD Name: disk1s1
Mount Point: /Volumes/UNTITLED 1
Content: DOS_FAT_32
Intel ESB2 AHCI:
Vendor: Intel
Product: ESB2 AHCI
Link Speed: 3 Gigabit
Negotiated Link Speed: 3 Gigabit
Description: AHCI Version 1.10 Supported
HDS725050KLA360:
Capacity: 500.11 GB (500,107,862,016 bytes)
Model: HDS725050KLA360
Revision: K2AOAB5A
Serial Number: KRVN67ZAK1RKSF
Native Command Queuing: Yes
Queue Depth: 32
Removable Media: No
Detachable Drive: No
BSD Name: disk0
Medium Type: Rotational
Bay Name: Bay 3
Partition Map Type: GPT (GUID Partition Table)
S.M.A.R.T. status: Verified
Volumes:
disk0s1:
Capacity: 209.7 MB (209,715,200 bytes)
BSD Name: disk0s1
Content: EFI
machd:
Capacity: 499.25 GB (499,248,103,424 bytes)
Available: 372.42 GB (372,419,407,872 bytes)
Writable: Yes
File System: Journaled HFS+
BSD Name: disk0s2
Mount Point: /
Content: Apple_HFS
Recovery HD:
Capacity: 650 MB (650,002,432 bytes)
BSD Name: disk0s3
Content: Apple_Boot
HDS725050KLA360:
Capacity: 500.11 GB (500,107,862,016 bytes)
Model: HDS725050KLA360
Revision: K2AOAB5A
Serial Number: KRVN67ZAK1RKSF
Native Command Queuing: Yes
Queue Depth: 32
Removable Media: No
Detachable Drive: No
BSD Name: disk0
Medium Type: Rotational
Bay Name: Bay 3
Partition Map Type: GPT (GUID Partition Table)
S.M.A.R.T. status: Verified
Volumes:
disk0s1:
Capacity: 209.7 MB (209,715,200 bytes)
BSD Name: disk0s1
Content: EFI
machd:
Capacity: 499.25 GB (499,248,103,424 bytes)
Available: 372.42 GB (372,419,407,872 bytes)
Writable: Yes
File System: Journaled HFS+
BSD Name: disk0s2
Mount Point: /
Content: Apple_HFS
Recovery HD:
Capacity: 650 MB (650,002,432 bytes)
BSD Name: disk0s3
Content: Apple_Boot
Intel ESB2 AHCI:
Vendor: Intel
Product: ESB2 AHCI
Link Speed: 3 Gigabit
Description: AHCI Version 1.10 Supported
Intel ESB2 AHCI:
Vendor: Intel
Product: ESB2 AHCI
Link Speed: 3 Gigabit
Description: AHCI Version 1.10 Supported
Intel ESB2 AHCI:
Vendor: Intel
Product: ESB2 AHCI
Link Speed: 3 Gigabit
Description: AHCI Version 1.10 SupportedTry this:
clone your system and repair it with Disk Warrior instead
Or try a clean test system install on another drive
A must: SmcFanControl 2.2 - a mere 400 rpm extra to keep air cooling up
Try to run w/o externals. MyBook included.
Is that a 7200.11 1TB? they had a lot of issues.
Run AHT off your OEM DVD.
2008 had to have EFI and SMC updates to deal with freezes on wake from sleep, and like all models, high inrush current. Hopefully you have a UPS and is 1500VA unit.
When you do hard restart from power button, you almost certainly add more directory errors and to files requiring immediate attention to repair and rebuild the directory; and to scan and repair and delete cache and temp files and folders. A must. Invest in bootable backups SuperDuper along with Disk Warrior (or TechTool Pro 6, maybe Drive Genius 3 but I'd rate that #3).
TimeMachine has its own bad habits, especially with Green drives and some externals.
Try to rule out everything and then add back one at a time.
And it may just be time to replace the 8800, very common, a couple threads this week, and it is 3 yrs old. Might want ATI 5870 or 5770. -
Black Screen for Install of Windows 7 on Mac Pro Early 2008
I have a mac pro early 2008 with lion 10.7.4 and boot camp 4.0.3 I think... anyways the problem I have is when I am in boot camp, and configure the HDD partition, then the machine reboots... when it reboots and starts up boot from the install DVD (legit retail copy) I just get a black screen on both monitors. No curser, nothing just a black screen, same as I get when the machine is off! the little white LED lights are on and nothing...
I can hear the DVD spinning up and down a few times then that just stops too...
I have tried resetting the PRAM, pulling the power and watch battery inside for a few minutes, I tried the "fix" that is online for the imac problem with the answerfile and got no different resutls with anything, still the same probelm.
I have the OEM ATI Radeon video card 512MB.
* as a side note, I was never able to download the windows support drivers prior to trying the install... I tried and tried for the last two days so this time I "unchekced" that box and just went for the install...
Any help will be greatly appriciated, thank you :-)
MikeHey Hatter, I know this is a little old but I've just picked up this thread and I wonder if you can help. I get the same issue as:
JRASupport
Jun 28, 2012 1:56 PM
I have a mac pro early 2008 with lion 10.7.4 and boot camp 4.0.3 I think... anyways the problem I have is when I am in boot camp, and configure the HDD partition, then the machine reboots... when it reboots and starts up boot from the install DVD (legit retail copy) I just get a black screen on both monitors. No curser, nothing just a black screen, same as I get when the machine is off! the little white LED lights are on and nothing...
I get that dreaded black screen following partioning of my drive on the Windows 7 install on Mavericks on a Macbook Pro late-2008 (MBP5,1) but I'm at a loss to work out where the solution lies in the thread! ;-(
To date I've spent about 5 days going back and forth trying all sorts of combinations, including the obvious:
- removing bootcamp 5 and reverting to 4
- installing the imac drivers
A HUGE thanks if you can offer any help as I'm at the end of my tether...!
Adam
BTW I'm working off USB with 32 bit Windows 7 ISO -
Hello. My mac pro early 2008 restarts after sleep mode and it works slower. I tested it with apple hardwear test and it seems to be ok. Thank you.
Try this:
clone your system and repair it with Disk Warrior instead
Or try a clean test system install on another drive
A must: SmcFanControl 2.2 - a mere 400 rpm extra to keep air cooling up
Try to run w/o externals. MyBook included.
Is that a 7200.11 1TB? they had a lot of issues.
Run AHT off your OEM DVD.
2008 had to have EFI and SMC updates to deal with freezes on wake from sleep, and like all models, high inrush current. Hopefully you have a UPS and is 1500VA unit.
When you do hard restart from power button, you almost certainly add more directory errors and to files requiring immediate attention to repair and rebuild the directory; and to scan and repair and delete cache and temp files and folders. A must. Invest in bootable backups SuperDuper along with Disk Warrior (or TechTool Pro 6, maybe Drive Genius 3 but I'd rate that #3).
TimeMachine has its own bad habits, especially with Green drives and some externals.
Try to rule out everything and then add back one at a time.
And it may just be time to replace the 8800, very common, a couple threads this week, and it is 3 yrs old. Might want ATI 5870 or 5770. -
Mac Pro (Early 2008) shuts down unexpectedly
I have a recurring problem with my Mac Pro (Early 2008). I put the computer to sleep; then, when I tap a few keys on the keyboard to wake it up, I hear the start-up sound and it boots up as if it were shut down.
This is particularly strange, because I do not have to use the "power" button on the tower to turn it on. When I tap the keys on the keyboard, as if to wake it from sleep, it makes the start-up sound and boots. I am guessing that somehow it is shutting off when I first try to wake it from sleep, and then must re-boot. But this is odd behavior that I've never seen from any Mac, and I've been using them for almost 20 years.
Any ideas? I'm going to call Apple Support but I always dread those long wait times and often fruitless conversations. I did not migrate information from my previous system; I took the time to manually migrate my files and reinstalled all apps from DVD specifically to avoid problems like this. Very frustrating.I've noticed the same problem for one day with my new MP 2.8 dualquad, got a reboot after every sleep.
This solved the issue for me:
• Reset the PRAM (Boot the machine and hold ALTCOMMAND+PR for 3 startup gongs)
• Reset the SMC -> http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=304123-en
Good luck -
Mac Pro (Early 2008) freezes, reboots to recovery system, trouble locating startup disk
I have two issues which may or may not be related with my Mac Pro. First, off and on for several months is has been frozen when waking from sleep. I can hit a key and see my desktop with the windows I left open, but I get the spinning beach ball and the time is typically several hours behind. The only way I can get it to start is to restart from the power button. This typically happens overnight when my computer has been asleep for a long time. Sometimes I hear the fan run while the computer is asleep and I don't know if that is related. I've tried switching from Firefox to Chrome to see if that was the problem since I typically have a few tabs open on Firefox when it freezes, but that does not solve the problem. The next step I plan to try is to get a can of compressed air and clean the fan and check if the video card air intake might be clogged, based on information I have read in various forums. Does anyone have other suggestions for things to try to eliminate the freezing? Another suggestion I read was to get a new logic board battery installed but I hate to lug this thing into an Apple store unless I really have to. Most of the time I'm comfortable fixing things on my own.
The second issue is that when I reboot after shutting down the computer with the power button, it does not always load the startup disk. Sometimes I get the recovery system instead, and if I try disk repair, restore from backup, or the startup disk option from the apple menu, it cannot locate the startup disk. Usually after a few tries, I can restart it and get my desktop, but I'm not sure how long that will work. I hoped that resetting the NVRAM would take care of this but it has not fixed the issue. When I do disk repair, it says the drive is fine. I've also used idefrag to clean up the drive. I'm thinking my hard drive might be about to die and I should just get a new one, but I don't want to spend the money if that is not the issue. I have 83 GB free on the drive so space should not be an issue.
Any suggestions on fixing either or both of these issue would be very much welcome! I need to make this computer last at least a couple more years.
Specs:
Mac Pro early 2008
Processor 2 x 2.8 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon
Memory 8 GB 800 MHz DDR2 FB-DIMM
Graphics NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT 512 MB
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Disappearing HDD content / Mac Pro early 2008
Hi,
I have a Mac Pro early 2008.
I keep getting a weird fault. All of my HDDs (exept system drive) and external usb devices like CF cards (via reader) are not showing any content. But only through applications. Example: When I try to open a project in photoshop, in this little finder window, I don't see any content on my HDDs. The same in After Effects, Final Cut etc. The weirdest thing is that trough a normal Finder window everything seems to be ok, but when I try to open PSD from Finder, photoshop crashes. It's all very confusing and making me angry
When I restart Mac, everything comes back to normal.
Irecently reinstalled My Mac on an SSD (the only drive that's not disappearing ) - maybe that's the problem. I don't know. Please help if you have any ideas why is this happening.
Regards,
Maciek
btw. "About this Mac" doesn't work either...Hi,
Thank's for your help. I have some more anomalies to report
After many restarts I can say that there may be an external device problem. The disappearing issue appears only when an external device (hard drive, card reader) is connected: via USB or Firewire. Before that happens everything is ok. When I connect any hard drive (doesn't matter if 3.5", 2.5" powered by USB or power supply) after a few minutes the problem appears...
Maybe you will be able to help me to identify this problem.
Thanks again for your help.
Maciek -
Mac Pro (early 2008) cannot startup
Today, I shut down my Mac Pro (early 2008) for about two hours and now it just refuses to startup.
This is the symptom:
Power-on LED illuminates when power button is pressed and fans spin continuously but there is no boot tone or video
Apple Service Guide
1. Reseat video card. (Make sure video card is fully inserted in connector and end of card is 1. secured by the connector latch.) For video cards that require power cables, check that they are connected.
I have two GPUs. NVidia GeForce 8800 GT and NVidia GeForce GT120. Tried them individually. Cards' fans spinning. Check diagnostic LED and LED 7 & 8 no light. Only LED 2 Yellow and LED 9 Green.
2. Verify speaker cable is fully seated.
No idea where this is.
3. Reset logic board. Refer to “Resetting the Logic Board” in this chapter.
Same symptom. LED 7 & 8 no light. Only LED 2 Yellow and LED 9 Green.
4. Check diagnostic LED 3 and/or LED 4 for processor connection.
Off.
5. If only one of the CPU Error LEDs (LED 3 or 4) comes on, try swapping the processors. If the Error LED follows the processor to the other processor location, replace that processor.
Since LED 3 & 4 are off, I guess CPUs are fine.
6. Replace logic board
This seems to be a standard fix suggestion for all startup failures in the service guide. Anyway, to check if it's a logic board issue?
I tried this too:
System Reset
Mac Pro (Early 2008) has a system reset switch on the logic board that may be used to restart the system while it is powered up. This switch can be used to determine if a computer that won’t consistently boot from a cold start has power supply issues. Follow these steps to reset the system:
1. With the computer powered up, press the SYS_RST switch located in the upper right-hand corner of the logic board. To press the switch, use the nylon probe tool (Apple part number 922-5065).
2. If the computer boots after you press the SYS_RST switch, try shutting the computer off and restarting by pressing the front power button. If the computer restarts when you press the SYS_RST switch but not from a cold start, the power supply may need to be replaced.
and I experienced 1. Can conclude not power supply issue? Did diagnostic check and still the same LED 7 & 8 no light. Only LED 2 Yellow and LED 9 Green.
I checked both memory riser cards. No red light. Half a year ago, I experienced the same no chime startup issue and found that Apple's supplied DIMMs were the culprits. I tested individual DIMM and still no go.
At loss now.
Apart from sending in for repair, no budget for that, and other steps to revive my Mac Pro?had this exact problem yesterday. this is how i solved it although im no apple genius
My Mac pro 3,1 simply woudlnt boot normally no matter how i tried to reset it. power light was fine, no ram errors, just no chime and no video.
how i fixed it:
1. shut down and unplug
2. open side case (you should be using an antistatic wrist strap if you do this)
3. unplug EVERYTHING. (remove all 4 HDDs, video cards, Ram boards, power cable, USB cable, audio1/8" jack, firewire cables. leterally you want it bare bones. only thing i left in was my superdrives)
4. i removed the logic board battery and while unplugged held the power button for 1 min to drain all capacitors on the board. left it unplugged for 10-15min after this
5. after 15 mins, the only things i put back were the logic board battery, ram boards, the audio jack to check for a boot chime, and the power cable. ( no video cards, no hard drives, not even the boot drive, no keyboard etc.)
6. press power button to boot. HOPEFULLY you head a chime. if you do, hold power button to power off system.
7. now only insert the boot drive and one video card into pci slot one (power plug should be out to install things)
8. start the computer back up and look for video. hopefully it asks for a keybaord and mouse on the screen
9. shut down without reinserting keybaord, mouse, or anything else.
10. unplug system after power off, and reinstall and plug back in EVERYTHING
11. reboot and hopefully all is well????
-Mitch -
Mac Pro Early 2008 not booting
Hey guys!
I walked into a problem with a Mac Pro early 2008 model.
I got this Mac Pro from somebody since it wasn't working anymore. I was told there could be a graphic card (Nvidia) issue which I think should at least be correct but I am also having trouble with loading EFI. The following things happen:
When I turn on the mac using a DVI to VGA adapter i have no screen at all. (I don't have any other options atm)
There is no HD inserted.
PRAM and SMC reset won't do anything, i'm not even sure it reads keyboard commands.
The fans all work even the one on the GPU.
Front LED just burns steady.
No lights on my USB (non Apple) Keyboard turn on.
The lights of the mouse just flashes on start up.
RAM LEDS light up on startup.
Motherboard reset button doesn't make anything change.
When I Press the button for the diag LED's, the Trickle Power and the Good Power led come on, the GPU LED stays off. The EFI LED is off aswel.
No RAM errors show up. Tried switching RAM and disconnecting RAM and GPU.
No startup chime what so ever.
I figured there could be something wrong with the EFI firmware (or logic board is just broken). I am trying to restore the firmware with a firmware restoration cd, but I can't get the cd tray to open. I pressed the on button and kept pressing it for a long time. All it does is makes my status LED flash a couple of times real fast, but then it goes back to normal state. No cd tray is opening and its not flashing 3 times fast, 3 time slow, 3 times fast as it probely should be doing.
You guys have any idea what to try next or how to restore the firmware?
Thanks in advance.there's a boot code to run with the older machines
Pike wrote this code
Using this code will get you around the efi/boot issue and move on to OS 10.10.02
Installing Yosemite just prior to entering the efi/boot, then restart twice.
You'll need to research Pike's code, but your 2006 to 2008 machines are long ways from trash.
I'm upgrading my 2006 to 8 cores, Yosemite and 32 gig of ram.
Long live these early Mac Pros
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Graphics card Mac Pro (Early 2008) What is supported
I desperatly need a new Graphics Card for my Early 2008 Mac Pro.
Bellow are the listed and supported graphics cards from apple site.
None of the cards listed for early 2008 is possible (Very hard) to get here in Norway.
I've read some treads here saying that ATI Radeon HD 5870 will work on Early 2008 Mac Pro.
- Can someone please verify that this will work?
- On the Note for early 2009 The radeon HD 5870 card requires Mac OS X v10.6.4 or later and it requires the use of both auxiliary power connections?
Both auxiliary power connections. Do Early 2008 Mac Pro have this possibility?
Graphics cards for Mac Pro (Early 2008)
ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT (part number 630-9191 or 630-9897)
NVIDIA Quadro FX 5600
ATI Radeon HD 4870, offered as an upgrade kit
Note: The Radeon HD 4870 card requires Mac OS X v10.5.7 or later for use with the Mac Pro (Early 2008).
Graphics cards for Mac Pro (Early 2009)
NVIDIA GeForce GT 120
ATI Radeon HD 4870
ATI Radeon HD 5870, offered as an upgrade kit
Note: The radeon HD 5870 card requires Mac OS X v10.6.4 or later and it requires the use of both auxiliary power connections.Robban1978,
I have 27 Apple Mac Pro's (between work/office, home, and clients), and have four Apple Mac Pro's (just at home) and I have purchased the Diamond Radeon HD 7970 graphics cards (7970PE53GHZ) for each of the 27 computers and the graphics cards do work great in all of my Apple Mac Pro computers (2008, 2010, and two 2012 Apple Mac Pro).
The only problem is that I have to boot directly into Windows Vista, Windows 7 or Windows 8 to use the graphics cards because Diamond/Radeon/AMD have not released graphics drivers for the Radeon 7970 for OS X 10.8.x Mountain Lion (as of yet?)
See here: https://discussions.apple.com/message/20289120
See here: https://discussions.apple.com/message/20289931
See here: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4391012
Hopefully AMD/Radeon/Diamond will release updated graphics drivers for OS X 10.8.x Mountain Lion, and I believe the Diamond Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition graphics card is probably the best graphics card out on the market (based on it's price/performance), the only problem/issue is there are no OS X 10.8.x Mountain Lion drivers for the Radeon HD 7970 series graphics cards yet.
Hopefully AMD/Radeon/Diamond will work on developing and releasing OS X 10.8.x Mountain Lion drivers. -
Mac Pro Early 2008 crash after gear on boot
Hi. I have a Mac Pro (Early 2008), with Mavericks installed. A couple of days ago, it crashed hard (in Portal, as it happens) and then wouldn't boot. When it was crashing it showed full green in various (dark? or random?) areas of the screen, and then random vertical lines of coloured noise. The cursor went jerky, and then stopped moving at all. Having decided this was a more serious problem than a simple steam error, I forced the machine to shut down with the case button, and then turned it back on again, but it wouldn't come up, and hasn't (with exceptions, see below) since.
The behaviour is:
Boot chime, Apple, Apple-with-spinning-gear, a sensible (it seems) amount of spinning gear, then the gear stops and I get some flashing on my screen (like, a complete red screen, or orange screen – colours vary – displayed for less than one refresh, so I see a brief flash of colour with tearing). Occasionally instead of flashing I get an unexpected reboot: once when this happened I also got the kernel's (multiple language) "Your computer restarted because of a problem" screen.
Safe Mode has the same problem (I get a progress bar, when the progress bar completes everything stops and "screen flashing" happens).
EFI boot volume selector works fine, but when I continue to boot, either from my main partition or the Recovery partition, I get the same problem.
Verbose mode works until the point where the graphical user interface should come back, which gives me a white screen and nothing (except screen flashing). I do get a certain amount of "kSMCBadArgumentError" before that point, but see below.
Single User Mode works as it should, fsck finds no errors, all my data appears to be on my hard drive as expected, but on typing "exit" to continue boot I end up in the same position as Verbose Mode. Trying kextload to load all my extensions gives the kSMCBadArgumentError lines, but no other problems (until I try to boot). I have already tried using SUM to remove all the launch agents/daemons/extensions from /Library/ (leaving only the ones in /System/Library/). This worked (I modified the disk as I intended) but didn't help me boot.
I did get the recovery partition to boot once (seemingly randomly), Disk Utility found no errors. The full Apple Hardware Test doesn't seem to be an option from the recovery partition? (I've moved house a few times in the last 6 years, and I don't know where my physical AHT disk is any more. I do have a friend who would probably be able to burn one if Apple provides the disk image as a download.) I have had a full successful boot once too (maybe on the restart after using the recovery partition?) which let me use my administrator user perfectly (I used it for about 5 minutes?), but then after logging out and while trying to log in as my "standard" user I got full green noise as before, and the machine locked up again.
I've rotated my RAM (I have 2x1GB sticks and 2x2GB, as well as my usual 6GB config I've tried each of the pairs in "two-stick" configuration). No difference, except on one boot I got error lights (full on) on one riser, I assume that was because I hadn't seated it properly during rotation, because I took it out and put it back in again and I've not had the lights before or since.
I've also tried swapping in an older system drive, but that made no difference. (The old drive may have been a little flaky itself, but single-user mode booting reliably suggests, at least to me, that my normal drives aren't the problem?)
Without wishing to privilege a hypothesis, could it be the graphics card? I have the Nvidia GeForce 8800 GT, I believe (it looks exactly like the pictures of that card online, anyway) – installed by Apple at build time. I tried taking it out and putting it back in again, in case it had become poorly seated, but it seemed firmly in place – for example, the PCIe retainer clip was fully engaged before I removed the card – and reseating it didn't make any difference. I don't have a second card to test with, unfortunately. I wouldn't mind getting a new card to keep the machine running, of course, but I'd like to make sure that it's going to solve my problem before buying it!
Thanks for any help you can give!
Edited to correct OS field, which didn't work. I really do mean Mavericks.RE: Mac Pro Replacement Graphics cards
1) Apple brand cards,
2) "sold in the Apple store" cards, and
3) "Mac Edition" cards ...
... show all the screens, including Boot up screens, Safe Mode, Installer, Recovery, debug screens, and Alt/Option boot screens. At this writing, these choices include:
1) Apple brand cards:
• Apple-firmware 5770, about US$250** works near full speed in every model Mac Pro, Drivers in 10.6.5
• Apple-firmware 5870, about US$450
2) "sold in the Apple store" cards
• NVIDIA Quadro 4000, about US$1200
• NVIDIA Quadro 5000, about US$2500
3) "Mac Edition" cards -- REQUIRE 10.8.3 or later:
• SAPPHIRE HD 7950 3GB GDDR5 MAC Edition, about US$480** Vendor recommends Mac Pro 4,1
• EVGA GTX 680 Mac Edition, about US$600
The cards above require no more than the provided two 6-pin aux power connectors provided in the Mac Pro through 2012 model. Aux cables may not be provided for third-party cards, but are readily available.
If you are Meet ALL of these:
• running 10.8.3 or later AND
• don't care about "no boot screens" etc AND
• can re-wire or otherwise "work out" the power cabling, THEN:
You can use many more cards, even most "PC-only cards"
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