Mac Pro Multiple OS on Multiple HDDs.

I want to take advantage of the 4 hard drive bays on my Mac Pro, so I want to install Windows on a second Hard Drive. can I do that through Bootcamp? or do I need to install it while using the second HD? also with my specs I am not sure what OS to install
Specs: 4GB Ram, 2.66 GHz Xeon, NIVIDA 7300GT 256MB, 500GB HDD.
My Windows choices are: XP SP3 (x32), Vista, Windows 7 (x32), or Windows 8 (x32)
Cheers,
Adam

Based on:
Specs: 4GB Ram, 2.66 GHz Xeon, NIVIDA 7300GT 256MB,
The OP and a 2006/2007 Mac Pro and can only run 32 bit Win 7 and 32 bit Win Vista
System requirements to install Windows on your Mac via Boot Camp - Apple Support

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