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Okay, well my Mac Pro (2008) takes anything between 40 and 48 seconds to boot (that's the time between pressing the power button and seeing the desktop with mouse movement). Being a long-time PC user, this boot time is MUCH faster than anything I've used before, but apparently it's longer than it should be. I was recently in a forum where most Mac Pro users had boot times of anything between 25 and 35 seconds.
As for hardware, I have no peripherals plugged in (except for Apple mouse and keyboard). The major software that I've installed is the Adobe Master Collection (including programs such as Photoshop, After Effects, Encore, Premiere Pro, Illustrator, InDesign, Dreamweaver, Flash, Fireworks, VersionCue, etc.)
I've looked at my Console messages, and I've noticed that the message "kcdmond cannot retreive the computer's local Hostname, retrying..." is repeated 3 times. This repetition takes up 20 seconds. See all the Console messages during boot-up below:
18/4/08 1:00:53 PM com.apple.launchctl.System[2] launchctl: Please convert the following to launchd: /etc/mach_init.d/dashboardadvisoryd.plist
18/4/08 1:00:53 PM com.apple.launchd[1] (com.adobe.versioncueCS3) Unknown key: ServiceDescription
18/4/08 1:00:53 PM com.apple.launchd[1] (org.cups.cups-lpd) Unknown key: SHAuthorizationRight
18/4/08 1:00:53 PM com.apple.launchd[1] (org.cups.cupsd) Unknown key: SHAuthorizationRight
18/4/08 1:00:53 PM com.apple.launchd[1] (org.ntp.ntpd) Unknown key: SHAuthorizationRight
18/4/08 1:01:01 PM com.apple.kdcmond[35] kdcmond cannot retreive the computer's local Hostname , retrying ..
18/4/08 1:01:06 PM com.apple.kdcmond[35] kdcmond cannot retreive the computer's local Hostname , retrying ..
18/4/08 1:01:16 PM com.apple.kdcmond[35] kdcmond cannot retreive the computer's local Hostname , retrying ..
18/4/08 1:01:21 PM com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.UserEventAgent-LoginWindow[76]) Exited: Terminated
18/4/08 1:01:21 PM com.apple.launchctl.Aqua[84] launchctl: Please convert the following to launchd: /etc/machinit_peruser.d/com.adobe.versioncueCS3.monitor.plist
18/4/08 1:01:22 PM com.apple.launchd[71] (0x1010d0.VersionCueCS3monitor) Failed to check-in!
18/4/08 1:01:25 PM iChatAgent[106] WARNING: AbstractService loginIfAvailable: SCNetworkCheckReachabilityByName failed!
18/4/08 1:01:26 PM iChatAgent[106] WARNING: AbstractService loginIfAvailable: SCNetworkCheckReachabilityByName failed!
18/4/08 1:01:31 PM com.apple.SystemStarter[28] Starting Aladdin USB daemon
18/4/08 1:01:51 PM com.apple.launchctl.System[2] BootCacheControl: could not fetch history: Cannot allocate memory
18/4/08 1:01:51 PM com.apple.launchctl.System[2] BootCacheControl: could not stop cache/fetch history: Cannot allocate memory
I have a few questions based on the above:
1. What is kdcmond, and why can't it find the host name?
2. Why is the error message "Failed to check-in!" for Adobe VersionCue appearing? (I've already specified in the VersionCue settings that I do not want it to activate anything on start-up.)
3. What is "Aladdin USB daemon"?
4. What is BootCacheControl, and what is with the "cannot allocate memory" errors?

Okay, so after doing all of the above, the computer still takes between 40 seconds and 1 minute or so to boot up, and the VersionCue messages still appear. However I discovered that the "kdcmond cannot retrieve..." messages disappeared after I disabled my ethernet connections. So at least I know that that had nothing to do with the extended boot-up time.
I have heard that the more RAM you have, the longer it takes to boot due to the RAM count. Since I have 10 GB, maybe this is why?
I've included the most recent Console messages below:
22/4/08 9:56:16 AM com.apple.launchctl.System[2] launchctl: Please convert the following to launchd: /etc/mach_init.d/dashboardadvisoryd.plist
22/4/08 9:56:16 AM com.apple.launchd[1] (com.adobe.versioncueCS3) Unknown key: ServiceDescription
22/4/08 9:56:16 AM com.apple.launchd[1] (org.cups.cups-lpd) Unknown key: SHAuthorizationRight
22/4/08 9:56:16 AM com.apple.launchd[1] (org.cups.cupsd) Unknown key: SHAuthorizationRight
22/4/08 9:56:16 AM com.apple.launchd[1] (org.ntp.ntpd) Unknown key: SHAuthorizationRight
22/4/08 9:56:39 AM com.apple.SystemStarter[28] Starting Aladdin USB daemon
22/4/08 9:56:39 AM org.ntp.ntpd[25] Error : nodename nor servname provided, or not known
22/4/08 9:56:39 AM com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.UserEventAgent-LoginWindow[74]) Exited: Terminated
22/4/08 9:56:39 AM com.apple.launchctl.Aqua[90] launchctl: Please convert the following to launchd: /etc/machinit_peruser.d/com.adobe.versioncueCS3.monitor.plist
22/4/08 9:56:42 AM com.apple.launchd[82] (0x1011e0.VersionCueCS3monitor) Failed to check-in!

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- Loaded Windows 7 Install disc into my room mate's windows PC... loaded up fine, got to install screen
- Tried his OEM copy of Windows Vista 32-bit, same issue
At this point it seems like maybe some kind of firmware issue or some kind or graphics driver issue, but I'm pretty much grasping at straws at this point. It doesn't seem like it's even getting to the point where hard drives or anything matters.
It does recognize that I have a Windows 7 install disc inserted when I use the boot selector/startup disk chooser.
Thanks for the ideas, I'll try those out and see if any of them help,
-Andrew

Which Mac Pro? More cores=slower speeds? And most of us know the speed matters or FPU for music and I don't understand the faster is for the least amount of procs. And while I get the whole rendering thing and why it makes sense.

Which Mac Pro? More cores=slower speeds? And most of us know the speed matters or FPU for music and I don't understand the faster is for the least amount of procs. And while I get the whole rendering thing and why it makes sense.
The above is what the bar says. It's been a while and wondered, maybe Apple changed the format for forums. Then got this nice big blank canvas to air my concerns. Went to school for Computer Science, BSEE, even worked at Analog Devices in Newton Massachusetts, where they make something for apple.
The bottom line is fast CPU = more FPU = more headroom and still can't figure out why the more cores= the slower it gets unless it's to get us in to a 6 core then come out with faster cores down the road or a newer Mac that uses the GPU. Also. Few. I'm the guy who said a few years ago Mac has an FCP that looks like iMovie on Steroids. Having said that I called the campus one day to ask them something and while I used to work for Apple, I think she thought I still did as she asked me, "HOW ARE THE 32 CORES/1DYE COMING ALONG? Not wanting to embarrass her I said fine, fine and then hung up. Makes the most sense as I never quite got the 2,6,12 cores when for years everything from memory to CPU's have been, in sets of 2 to the 2nd power. 2,4,8,16,32,64,120,256,512, 1024, 2048,4196,8192, 72,768. Wow. W-O-W and will be using whatever I get with Apollo Quad.
Peace to all and hope someone can point us in THE RIGHT DIRECTION. THANK YOU

Thanks for your reply via email/msg. He wrote:
If you are interested in the actual design data for the Xeon processor, go to the Intel site and the actual CPU part numbers are:
Xeon 4 core - E5.1620v2
Xeon 6 core - E5.1650v2
Xeon 8 core - E5.1680v2
Xeon 12 core - E5.2697v2
I read that the CPU is easy to swap out but am sure something goes wrong at a certain point - even if solderedon they make material to absorb the solder, making your work area VERY clean.
My Question now is this, get an 8 core, then replace with 2 3.7 QUAD CHIPS, what would happen?
I also noticed that the 8 core Mac Pro is 3.0 when in fact they do have a 3.4 8 core chip, so 2 =16? Or if correct, wouldn't you be able to replace a QUAD CHIP WITH THAT? I;M SURE THEY ARE UO TO SOMETHING AS 1) WE HAVE SEEN NO AUDIO FPU OR PERHAPS I SHOULD CHECK OUT PC MAKERS WINDOWS machines for Sisoft Sandra "B-E-N-C-H-M-A-R-K-S" -
SOMETHINGS UP AND AM SURE WE'LL ALL BE PLEASED, AS the mac pro was announced Last year, barely made the December mark, then pushed to January, then February and now April.
Would rather wait and have it done correct than released to early only to have it benchmarked in audio and found to be slower in a few areas- - - the logical part of my brain is wondering what else I would have to swap out as I am sure it would run, and fine for a while, then, poof....
PEACE===AM SURE APPLE WILL BLOW US AWAY - they have to figure out how to increase the power for 150 watts or make the GPU work which in regard to FPU, I thought was NVIDIA?

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