Mac Pro+ USB Hub?

I've just switched from the PC world. One thing I've tried to bring along is a usb 2.0 hub that worked fine on my PC, but doesn't on my new MAC Pro. Here is a link to it:
http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=158910
Is this device not compatible in some way with the Mac PRO, or is mine somehow defective?
A second question: anybody have a USB hub the can recommend?
ibook g4 Mac OS X (10.3.9)

I have the same USB hub on my G5, and I just installed one on my friends Mac Pro, and it worked with no problems. All i can suggest is that you switch ports, and power cycle the hub.

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Mac Pro USB Failure.

Hello people!
Several months ago, i started to notice some problems with USB devices and built-in USB Ports. The problem is started with these symptomes:
After some working, all USB internal USB ports stop to giving power to usb devices. Only works that had power from another powered hubs like in my Apple Cinema Display.
It can causes at any time, but more expectedly at adding some USB devices (nevermind what, even flash card) to built-in ports of a Mac Pro.
And here is the logs:
Dec 30 18:53:24 Viktors-Mac-Pro kernel[0]: 0            0 AppleUSBCDC: start - initDevice failed
Dec 30 18:55:34 Viktors-Mac-Pro kernel[0]: IOSurface: buffer allocation size is zero
Dec 30 19:07:36 Viktors-Mac-Pro kernel[0]: USBF: 1003.270 [0xd45b700] The IOUSBFamily is having trouble enumerating a USB device that has been plugged in. It will keep retrying. (Port 3 of Hub at 0xfd000000)
Dec 30 19:07:36 Viktors-Mac-Pro kernel[0]: USBF: 1003.443 AppleUSBHubPort[0xfedfe00]::FatalError - Port 1 of Hub at 0xfd300000 reported error 0xe00002ed while doing setting port power
Dec 30 19:07:36 Viktors-Mac-Pro kernel[0]: USBF: 1003.544 AppleUSBHubPort[0x1015ec00]::FatalError - Port 2 of Hub at 0xfd300000 reported error 0xe00002ed while doing setting port power
Dec 30 19:07:36 Viktors-Mac-Pro kernel[0]: USBF: 1003.579 AppleUSBHubPort[0xfedf700]::FatalError - Port 3 of Hub at 0xfd300000 reported error 0xe00002c0 while doing setting port power
Dec 30 19:07:51 Viktors-Mac-Pro kernel[0]: Keyboard Hub::terminate(kIOServiceSynchronous) timeout
Dec 30 19:07:54 Viktors-Mac-Pro kernel[0]: USBF: 1021.269 [0xd45b700] The IOUSBFamily was not able to enumerate a device.
Dec 30 19:09:58 Viktors-Mac-Pro kernel[0]: USBF: 1145.583 [0xd45b700] The IOUSBFamily is having trouble enumerating a USB device that has been plugged in. It will keep retrying. (Port 3 of Hub at 0xfd000000)
Dec 30 19:10:01 Viktors-Mac-Pro kernel[0]: USBF: 1148.583 [0xd45b700] The IOUSBFamily was not able to enumerate a device.
But today this problem fully transform to another way. Now, USB devices are all works normal during work in OS which is Mac OS X 10.7.2 Server. But before it, OS booted two times. First time is a Cold Start, which is loooong and sloow. Especially, my OS booted from a RAID-0 of a two SSD drives (during normal start it takes 2 seconds to boot). Then still during boot procces, all USB devices turned off, and Mac Pro self-rebooted automatically. Second time he booted is normal fast startup without a problem.
These i found using dmesg:
[KLogClient]start(0x12a26f80)
[KLog]neUserClient() client = 0
[KLog]Closing: 0xfe69c00
[KLog]userclient ref: 0 0xfe69c00
[KLog]userclient ref: 1 0x10236000
[KLog]userclient ref: 2 0x1022d900
[KLog]Closing: 0x10236000
[KLog]userclient ref: 0 0x10236000
[KLog]userclient ref: 1 0x1022d900
           0            0 AppleUSBCDC: start - initDevice failed
           0            0 AppleUSBCDC: start - initDevice failed
           0            0 AppleUSBCDC: start - initDevice failed
[KLog]Closing: 0x1022d900
[KLog]userclient ref: 0 0x1022d900
Tried to do some testing. Booting to my second OS (Mac OS X 10.4.11 Server) makes the same effect during cold start. And what strange, in boot logs didn't any mention about what causes to reboot. It also does this double boot even if i turn out all USB devices from ports. Resetting SMC and PRAM, clearing and rebuilding Kernel Cache does nothing. Reported to Appel Bug reports... Can't understand what happens, and what to do... Everything was good before the 10.6.7 update. And it get much worse in Lion.
mac: Mac Pro 2,1 (2007)

Hello!
I would start by checking which hub is pointed by the mentionned address (0xfd300000).
Do you have Apple Developer Tools installed? If yes, open “IORegistryExplorer” or “USB Prober” and check which hub is referenced. Then, you could start inspecting its properties.
If you don't have them… well, install them

Mac pro usb ports won't work when ipod is plugged in

I just bought a used Mac Pro (2008). 8 cores, 12 meg 0f ram, all of this so I wouldnt be limited as I was with my 4 meg Imac. I go to plug in my ipod, and none of the other ports work, I can't use the mouse or keyboard. Is there any way around this. I had to plug the ipod directly into the tower (the port wouldnt work) This is frustrating, I get this model to be more than capable for what I need, and something like this pops up...always something. If anyone out there has had this experience, and figured out a work around, please help. Thanks

okay, that doesn't sound usual. Sounds to me like the usb port is drawing too much power. Try doing a repair permission or SMC reset. If you are using it with a USB hub, maybe that needs plugging in to the wall, or maybe it has gone bad. I can't help you a lot, but just a little bit. repairing permissions is through Disk Utility. SMC goes like this: shut down the Mac pro, unplug the power cord, wait 15-20 seconds. reattach power cord, wait about 15 seconds, then press power button. you can maybe try resetting the PRAM-shut down Mac, turn on computer, hold down Command, Option,P and R keys before grey screen appears. Hold down until computer restarts again and you hear the 2nd startup sound. Let go of the keys. You can also check in "About this mac" (more info) to see if there's something wrong with the USB ports themselves.
Other than that, could be logic board battery. Maybe Archive and install. Sorry, the crystal ball has gone dark. I"m sure someone else can enlighten you more than I can. I always plugged my ipod directly into my tower via the front USB port...
John B

2010 Mac Pro USB 3?

Are there any third-party PCIe USB 3 cards that are supported by Mountain Lion without additional drivers?

I also looked at the Sonnet Allegro USB 3.0 PCIe card. I wrote to them asking if it supported Mountain Lion and USB 3.0 hubs.
The reply was both good and bad. Good in that:
"The card will work in your Mac Pro and we released a driver last week that adds 10.8.x compatibility. So that part works. What won't work is your hub as we state in tech note#1 on the product page"
Bad in that, sppecifically, the tech note states:
The Mac OS X driver for this card does not support most USB 2.0 and USB 1.1 devices. iPod and iPhones are not supported. USB 3.0 hubs are not suported. Non-storage devices are not supported
So much for the word Universal in Universal Serial Bus.
And this is what infuriates me about Apple. The new Macbook Pro has two USB 3.0 ports so obviously Apple has drivers for USB 3.0. There is no fine print that the USB 3.0 ports won't work with this or that. So why doesn't Apple make a card for its legacy customers? Or release native drivers for its older machines?
The cynical answer is that Apple wants us to upgrade our machines. Yeah, right. I have a money tree that allows me to upgrade all my laptops (3 of them) and my Mac Pro every time Apple introduces new products. It is this type of arrogance that will see Apple's share price come down to where Microsoft's is.
Apple pushes the boundaries of design and technology but leaves its existing customer base behind. Mr Cook, this is NOT the way to go.

Mac Pro USB ports constantly losing power!

Hi,
Ive been looking through this forums but I havent been able to find a solution to my problem.
Ive got a 2008 Mac Pro and recently Ive been experiencing some issues with its USB ports.
The front usb ports have a USB antenna connected and some time later, it just loses power and I have to disconnect it and connect it in order to make it work again. Besides that, Ive got a USB hub connected in one of the back ports. In it, is my camera and my keyboard. After some time, it just loses power. Not at the same time than the usb antenna, but in less that an hour I have to repeat the process 2-3 times.
Worth to note, that in the two back usb ports left, Ive got an external hard drive in each and I dont have problems, there are always seen in the finder.
Some help would be great
Thanks in advance

Im running latest snow leopard.
I gave up and just used a cable for internet and a bluetooth keyboard.
I couldnt figure out why the usb antenna loses power. Though it still has a blue light linking.
What has been happening to you???

Mac Pro USB and FW800 ports not working

I've been reading tons of forum entries in the Apple Support Community and in other forums. Nothing seems to answer quite what's going on with my Mac Pro Tower.
Here are the details and steps taken up to now:
- I'm running a Mac Pro Tower (MacPro 3,1, 2x 2,8GHz Quad Core, Early 2008 model), currently running OS 10.6.8
- I moved before the holidays in December and left my computer unplugged for over month while away. Didn't have any issues before the move.
- up until the last couple of weeks, I had actually been running on Leopard (yes, I'm a luddite!, please, no teasing )
- I was trying to update my ipod touch's iOS and kept getting errors preventing it from completing the process. At first I thought it was an ipod app causing the issue after having read a few threads on that topic...
- Also, on startup, the Mac started searching for a Bluetooth keyboard, of which I don't have, and would not detect my usb keyboard. I would disconnect and reconnect the keyboard and the majority of the time, the Mac would then recognize my USB keyboard.
- I decided to upgrade to Snow Leopard, which didn't help with the iPod update. I did not do a clean install.
- Then I noticed that my USB stick wasn't working and tried it in all the usb ports (except the ones on the keyboard)
- Also, I had removed and then reinstalled printer and scanner drivers for my All-in-one printer. After this I kept getting constant communication errors between the mac and the printer via the usb port, although I was able to print a test page.
- I've used Hardware Test once which didn't detect any issue.
- I reset the SMC
- I reset the PRAM, and for a few seconds I was able to read from my USB stick, then never again, even after another PRAM reset.
- I've cleaned the whole inside of the computer and checked for loose cables. Cables are in so tight it's so hard to loosen them!
- I now tested all the ports:
     ∞ the 2 front and 3 back USB ports are unresponsive to my usb key and to my VoyagerQ dock
     ∞ the front and back FW800 ports are unresponsive to my VoyagerQ dock
     ∞ However, the keyboard works in any fo the back ports and my USB stick is recorgnized by the USB port of the keyboard.
     ∞ I also plugged in my Logitech webcam into the keyboard and it works there but not in any other port.
     ∞ When I plug in USB powered speakers into any of the ports, they work fine
     ∞ And the FW400 ports are also working fine with my VoyagerQ dock
- a few times, including once today, my mac restarted by itself. The times before today, I thought it was because I was sort of moving back the computer in place, but today I was nowhere near the computer.
So what does this all mean? Should I do a clean install of the Mac OS? Or is it a problem with my Logic Board?
Any insight please would be helpful. I had Apple Care and missed the reminder to renew it so I really hoping not to spend more money than necessary.

Thanks Grant,
The battery is a start and something inexpensive to replace.
I did do a PRAM reset (command + option + P + R) and was able to hear the chime 4 times. I tried resetting it a number of times over the past week, as well as yesterday with no success in reviving the USB ports. But isn't it weird that my USB powered speakers work by plugging them in any USB port (with the mini jack pugged in the back or front earphone plug)?
I did not use the USB ports on the keyboard until yesterday, so that is not the cause of the other USB and FW800 ports failing. But I'll follow your suggestion and not use them except for the mouse.
Another weird thing that happened yesterday, I have 16GB of RAM and I spent all day trying to troubleshoot a RAM issue that is magically fixed after leaving the computer on overnight to do an extended Hardware Test. The issue was:
- Only 8 RAMS were being recognized
- a red LED light appeared on the top riser
- first I thought I had isolated the faulty RAM bar, and then a second one
- Then going pair by pair again, I no longer saw the LED light
- Put back all 8 bars, only 8 GB of RAM recognized
- Left computer overnight running Hardware test (said it took almost 3 hours, with no errors)
- Now all 16 GB are recognized!
Thanks again for the tips

MAC PRO USB Problem - Traced to bad Apple Keyboard Extension Cable

I found a fix to a problem synching to my itunes Library on my early 2008 MAC PRO. The Apple supplied USB extension cable for the keyboard was defective.
The symptoms were hangs in itunes and finder synching to iPods and transferring data to USB hard drives. The iPods and hard drives never lost power and no errors/log entries were made. The transfers simply stalled and would not continue. itunes and finder would hang until the drive or ipod was removed. These devices were installed directly to USB ports on the MAC PRO. No other USB devices were connected except for the aluminum keyboard and mighty mouse; the mouse was connected to the keyboard. The keyboard was connected using the USB extension cable that shipped with the MAC PRO.
Hardware diagnostics were all clear. The keyboard and mouse never had any connection problems. Only itunes syncs and hard drive copies would fail; these would occur at random times. I had an open ticket with Apple to have the logic board replaced as it was diagnosed to be a hardware/USB problem.
Removal or replacement of the extension cable on the keyboard (which was connected to a different USB port and NOT in the USB chain with the ipod and hard drives) permanently fixed the problem. I cancelled the Apple HW replacement.
I have noted several posts with others having problems with USB ports and devices. I wonder if Apple has an unknown problem with bad keyboard extension cables.

I think you may be onto something there. I'm just a few weeks into my second Mac Pro and again it's having the same USB problems which led Apple to give me a replacement machine previously. I went through several weeks of considerable testing with Apple Engineers prior to that - an Apple Care application to collect data from my machine, Apple Developer USB prober and two clean installs. The latest machine initially showed no sign of the problem then it started again - 2 iPods "can not be read or written to" part way through sync, Aperture quitting importing from USB SD card reader, USB drives dismounting etc. So I pulled out the Aluminium keyboard and, lo and behold, the iPods managed to get all the way through synching without errors. I really like the alu keyboard so it's a huge shame that it might be the cause of all my problems so far - and the Mac Pro is otherwise a beautiful computer.
But is this really a hardware problem of the internal USB cards and power management or supply?

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MacBook Pro - USB Hub power exceeded / Lost TrackPad / iSight

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I have an older 17 inch MacBook Pro - Windows XP
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Mac Pro USB ports and bluetooth not working

I have a Mac Pro (early 2008) Quad-Core Intel Xeon, 2.8 GHz, 4GB ram, Airport card, Magic Mouse. Suddenly the keyboard and wired/bluetooth Mouse are unavailable, so it is not possible to control the computer. The only way I can use it is by using Screen Sharing from my MacBook Pro - which is obviously pretty useless except for diagnostics! All the USB ports (front and back, as well as those on the Cinema Display - when connected) are dead. System profiler shows no problem with them, but also shows nothing connected. Bluetooth in menu bar shows as "Bluetooth: not available", and in system profiler shows as "No information found".
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Just waking this thread up again in case anyone has had any other ideas.
Since last posting, usb became functional again, (came back on a couple of hours after a restart) and as long as I kept the machine alive, usb would stay alive. Bluetooth came back on briefly, but for most of the time was unavailable. System profiler shows no problems and Console does not report any usb related errors as far as I can see.
After a recent restart, usb disappeared again, and despite numerous restarts and being left on for a couple of days (and subsequently left off for several days) it has not come back. When usb is not working, examining the system profiler (through screen sharing from my macbook) usb shows no errors, but also shows no connected devices. I can charge my ipod nano with any of the usb ports (front or back), so power does not seem to be the issue.
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I currently have a 1 TB Fantom Drive with USB 2.0 that I use for the Time Machine. I want to get the second external drive to use as a boot drive so I can install & boot from Mountain Lion to use Maya 2014 3D application software that requires the Mountain Lion OS. For all other applications, I want to stick with Snow Leopard (10.6.8), which works well for me.
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First, many thanks to both Grant Bennet-Alder and The hatter for their fast responses to my questions. I really appreciate this information. Based on your suggestions I did some research in order to better understand the proposed solutions.
Grant Bennet-Alder wrote:
You can add a PCIe card to get these interfaces:
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USB-3
1. Does one need to get a separate PCIe card for each interface, or is there one PCIe card for multiple interfaces?
The hatter wrote:
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3. Or, can I install it on my external Falcon Drive (which has a Partition Map Scheme : GUID Partition Table, and which, I believe means it is not a bootable drive). Following that installation could I then move it to the PCIe SSD and boot Mountain Lion from there?
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I'm having issues with my Mac Pro 8 core (2008) connected to an Apple 24" LED. I have a Radeon HD 4870 graphics card installed in the Mac so I can use the Apple LED mini displayport connection. The video works perfectly fine but to use the built-in speakers and iSight in the Apple LED I have to use the USB cables and connect them to the USB sockets of the Mac Pro. This is where the problem seems to be as after a time using the Mac it crashes in a strange manner and I get a few lines of coding and the Mac shuts down on its own. I've used Dr Botts extension cables to extend to reach of the USB cables which I thought maybe the issues and taken this off and I've also unplugged any devices plugged into the extra USB sockets on the Apple LED. I think it's something to do with using the speakers as playing video seems to crash the Mac also but once I unplug the USB cables the video plays fine, but without speaker sound. Has anyone had similar problems and have any solutions?
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I have had no problem at all.
Assume you have considered: http://support.apple.com/kb/TS2400
If you have concerns about possible extension cable reliablity, you might want to consider trying a spare such as this one that is available from the Store: http://store.apple.com/us/product/H6730LL/A/
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Thank you; that is helpful. If possible, I'd like to avoid going in and removing wires, etc. From everything I have read, the bluetooth antenna is very close to and similar-looking to the wifi antenna, so I don't want to mess it up.
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