Mac Pro w Boot Camp - SATA, AHCI, EFI, BIOS - what can we do? (Cross Post)

I am trying to centralize the discussion of this particular issue which prevents the Mac Pro from being the ultimate cross platform system.
Please refer to the original thread located at:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=225349
Mac Pro 2.66 Mac OS X (10.4.7) 4 x 512MB RAM Modules, Boot Camp 1.1

I agree with all the posts. I did the whole thing again to 1.1 and find this system base device and the sata drive speed UDMA issue to be serious for cross platform. What I would like to know is what is the performance with the sata on the Mac OS side. I did a encode of video and it
didn't seem to be much faster than my G5 Dual 2.0 processor machine. I would like to hear from others on their video encoding to see if this sata issue goes throughout the whole machine. I'm dissappointed with the winxp thing. 1.1 is better and did alot better install, but I do realize that it is beta. Non the less, the sata issue is huge. What makes it worse is that Intel won't even give a little bit of support, basically they said to me that it was all Mac problems. I hope there are many changes, in the mean time the cross platform is not working for me. I did get autocad to run reasonable, but nothing like it should with the power under the hood.
Mike in WA
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