.mac trash in mail

When I trash an email in goes into my .mac trash box, in the Mail program. Now I also show a trash bin called "on my mac" but trashed email never goes into it.
I want to be able to keep deleted emails on my .mac account but erased from my Mail program and not retreivable from Mail.

By default, a .Mac account is using IMAP. This protocol keeps all information and messages server side, and just "displays" the server content on the client (your Mac). So, if you delete a message on your client, you do delete it on the server.
The only way, to leave deleted mails on the server but delete them on the client is to use POP3 instead of IMAP.
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I access my .Mac account as a .Mac type account with Tiger Mail and I use/access a single .Mac alias address at a time. I have no problems with the alias address being available as an address to choose from via the Accounts selection when composing a message.
Do you access more than one alias address at a time?
Does it make any difference when selecting Edit Email Aliases under the Email Address field available under the Account Information tab for the account preferences?
Since a .Mac account is really an IMAP type account and behaves in the same way, when deleting the account in Mail, no messages available at the server in the account's Inbox or any other server stored messages will be affected when deleting the account and re-creating it as an IMAP type account.
What you do lose when deleting an account in Mail are any locally stored mailboxes/messages for the account such as Drafts, Sent, Trash and Junk if these messages are not stored on the server.
If you don't store Sent messages on the server, before deleting the account you need to do the following:
Create/utilize an "On My Mac" location mailbox which is stored on the hard drive and not associated with any account. Transfer the account's Sent messages from the locally stored Sent mailbox for the account to the user created "On My Mac" location mailbox.
Delete and re-create the account in Mail as an IMAP type account. All server stored messages in the account's Inbox mailbox will be available again in the account's Inbox mailbox and after sending a message with the newly created IMAP account which will create a new Sent mailbox for the account, you can transfer the old sent messages from the "On My Mac" location mailbox to the new Sent mailbox for the account so no messages will be lost.

Auto Delete From "On My Mac" Trash and Junk Mailboxes?

I have three pop accounts set up. I have set the prefs for each account to autodelete trash and junk messages older than one week. This works.
However, when I delete a message from a folder I manually created, Mail moves it to an "On My Mac" trash folder. If I mark a message as junk from a folder I manually created, it is moved to an "On My Mac" junk folder. These "On My Mac" trash and junk folders do not autodelete the messages. I cannot find a preference to set an autodelete option for "On My Mac" trash and junk mailboxes.
Is there anyway to do this? Am I missing something?
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AFAIK, that’s how it works and you aren’t missing anything. The Mailbox Behaviors settings are account-specific and there is no way to specify those settings for “On My Mac” mailboxes... except I have my accounts set to erase messages in the Trash when quitting Mail, and my “On My Mac” Trash does the same...

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I just switched from my entourage email to mac's mail, and I noticed some problems that I cannot seem to figure out. I amm using IMAP based email, and had none of these problems on entourage, but I like the format of mail better, so i hope to get this resolved so I can keep using mail.
1. Trash- When I delete an email it does not go to the trash folder like it did in entourage, but rather just disappears and I cannot find it anywhere. This is regardless of if I try and store it on the server or not. Either way, the deleted messages disappear.
2. Sent mail- I may know why this is not working, at least I have heard a possible explanation. When I send an email, it will not go to the default sent-mail folder on my IMAP server, and so disappears unless I tell mail not to store them on the server (but there are obvious disadvantages to not having the mail stored on the server). I think this has to do with the fact that the sent mail folder on my IMAP client has to be set to sent-mail, while I hear Mail requires it to be just Sent.
3. Junk mail- When I mark messages as junk mail, the program does not move them to the junk mail folder, neither in mail nor on the IMAP server.
Now I have gone through as many of the options I can find to try and resolve this, but I have it all set up the same way I did in entourage, and cannot figure out why it is not working. Does it have to do with the naming of the folders for my IMAP service? Those seem to be default and unable to change. My Trash is labeled "trash", Sent mail is labeled "sent-mail", and junk mail is labeled "Junk".
I appreciate any help.

1. When not stored on the server, the account's Trash mailbox should be located under the Trash icon in the mailboxes drawer if "Move deleted messages to the Trash mailbox" is selected under the Mailbox Behaviors tab for the account preferences.
If you have this selected, using the Finder go to Home > Library > Mail > Mailboxes. Within the Mailboxes folder should be a folder named
Deleted Messages (name of your IMAP account in parenthesis).mbox
Confirm the folder includes the .mbox extension.
2. When you select "Store sent messages on the server", select your IMAP account's Sent mailbox under your IMAP account's icon in the mailboxes drawer which is sent-mail and at the menu bar, go to Mailbox > Use This Mailbox For and select Sent.
3. Do you have Junk Mail set to Automatic?

Where is the Trash in Mail?

I have searched all over preferences and under main menu drop down menus. I cannot find an option to show a Trash mailbox. And yet, Under Accounts - Mailbox Behavior - Trash, there is a checkbox to “Move deleted messages to the Trash mailbox.”
I see Junk and Delete. But where is Trash in Mail?
Duh.
Noodlehead

That's not up to you to decide. The account type is defined by the email provider. Some do allow a choice. I believe that the majority do not. If they do, they'll give you a choice in the account configuration and setup directions that they provide to you.
To the best of my knowledge, .mac is NOT one of those that give you a choice.
When you selected .mac in account setup, it is, essentially, imap. I really don't know what any differences are between selecting ".mac" and selecting "imap", and if none, why the distinction between the two during account setup is made. Maybe it was just to make things "easier" for .mac folks; some sort of marketing gizmo.
The only benefit I see to POP accounts is if you are paranoid about storing your mail on a server. However, until it was downloaded, it was stored there anyways. The big benefit that I see with IMAP is that regardless of from what computer you are accessing your account, your mailboxes on the different computers stay synchronized with one another, so the mailboxes on one computer don't get out of whack with those on another computer. It is always the "latest and greatest."

Mail will not work, it says "you can"t use this version of mail with this version of mac os x. mail version 4.5 help please

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!! WARNING !!
about the September 2012
"Security Update 2012-004"
If you've got "Mail.app" in a folder OTHER THAN the root "Applications" folder,
MOVE "MAIL.APP" TO THE APPLICATIONS FOLDER
**BEFORE** INSTALLING THE "004" UPDATE!!
Because *IF* you use OSX's integrated Software Update app from the Apple menu to do the "004" updating, and *IF* your Mail.app is NOT in the Applications folder, then buddy, you've got some sitdown fixit time ahead of ya and/or some internet tie-up time downloading the "004" update file itself.
Been through it all, already. In fact, just got done getting my Mail back up & running. And I tried everything short of attempting to unpacking my "Mail.pkg" receipt file using... whatever... even Pacifist couldn't get it out. So that fixit "Plan D" died quick. And I'm not savvy enough to use Terminal commands to do "Plan E," so that SUDO stuff was my brick wall.
So I compressed my entire "Mail" subdirectory that contain all my emails, for safekeeping during the required surgery, or whatever would work, leaving the original Mail directory where it was. In case something bad happened in all my fixit whatevers, the one thing I *didn't* want to cross paths with was a hosed Library -> Mail folder. Then I'd be pssd. But I can wipe out that ZIP now 'cause all's well now. After 6 hrs of downloading thru a mobile broadband hotspot running at only 14KB/sec speed due to my having gone over my T-Mobile hotspot plan's bandwidth amount (throttled-down after reaching the limit, tho not cut off completely. Kinda nice, but it's a huge speed drop).
I tried moving the two Mail.app versions around, compressing them & then trashing the original so they wouldn't be recognized, blabla, even booted my Mac in Safe Mode & reinstalled the "MacOSX 10.6.8 (Snow Leopard) Update Combo.dmg" update file, which in the past has fixed many problems. But after restarting, not this one.
Like a dummy who ignored knowing better, I had my Mail.app in a folder other than the Applications folder, with only an alias to that being in the Applications folder. NOT GOOD ENOUGH. The updater don't see that as nuthin special or useful.
So if you've got, like I've got, "old" icons for Mail.app (v4.5) in your Finder toolbar & in your Dock that all point to "Mail.app v4.5" in whatever folder you've got that in, other than in the Applications folder (where Apple apparently REQUIRES that it be located, and ONLY there, at least for OSX updating purposes), then after you download & autorun that "004" updater using Software Update, NONE of your pre-existing Mail icons will work. And MOST aggravatingly, **NOR** will your brand-new "Mail.app v4.6" work that came out of the "004" updating installation. So basically, your Mail.app's... all of 'em.... are hosed. But only if you run the "004" update without your "Mail.app v4.5" being located in your Applications folder and ONLY in your Applications folder. And duplicates of Mail.app, scattered around your HDD?? Always a problem with many Apple apps.... The Apple software engineers apparently like 'em to be in the Applications folder, and in ONLY there, and ONLY the latest version, and ONLY 1 single copy of each on your entire HDD. They just don't seem to stress that enough, it appears. Kind of an oversight for them to not emphasize that, IMO...
My recommendation for this particular September 2012 "004" update:
If you run Software Update, and if you see the "Security Update 2012-004" listed as available for download, UNCHECKMARK IT. DO NOT DOWNLOAD IT USING SOFTWARE UPDATE ! Instead, download the actual update file itself.
Same thing, only a different way of doing it. Most importantly, you'll be skipping the auto-installation that Software Update performs.
AND you'll have that update file on your HDD for future fixits, should a nasty "unfixable" problem come up.
First, #1. Do a filename search for "Mail" (Option-Command-Spacebar). Scroll down to where the "Apps" are located in the list under the "Kind" column heading. First, find your Mail.app that's v4.5. Get that bugger into your Applications folder if it's not already there. Next, Trash all other "Mail.app" apps you see in that same list that you may have elsewhere on your HDD.
#2. Go here: https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1586
And download the actual "004" DMG update file: "SecUpd2012-004.dmg"
And of course, it's a biggie.... 270MB... so watching grass grow may be involved here if you've got a slow connection (go to a MacDonalds & do it, like I shoulda done).
3. After downloading, I'd recommend closing down all apps, emptying the Trash, and restarting.
Then, after restarting, run Disk Utility's "Repair Disk Permissions."
Then, doublecheck that the Mail.app version 4.5 is in your Applications folder.
THEN fire up & install "SecUpd2012-004.dmg."
Reboot.
After the reboot, your Mail.app version 4.5 in the Applications folder will have become Mail.app version 4.6 in the Applications folder, and all will be well again.
And you can dump that zipped-up "Username -> Library -> Mail" folder then, too.
Happy Mac'in!
Kevin Kendall
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(Apple's very last all-white Macbook model)
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OS 10.6.8 Build 10K549 + Win 7 Ultimate thru VMWare Fusion v5.0.1

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