Macbook Pro 17" performance

Anyone got performance feedback for a MBPro 17" fully RAM'd?
Im thinking of upgrading and would appreciate a full user report...from a working pro if possible...(photographer that is)..lol

Thanks Denny, Mr Lee and Allen.
I have a big assignment in July so it will be tough to tough it out but I can see I SHOULD hold out.
Maybe they will tweak the screen resolution as well...from what I read, a lot of pro's need the extra pixel space(video pro's) Your point about going over +2 on the RAM option seems to be valid as well from all the feedback I read. Another HD option is unlikely I imagine but would be GREAT! as I take an external HD with me everywhere.
From reading ALL the posts in this forum its not hard to tell what most people want for a 'pro' system...(thats you apple techs)
I also would hope Apple should now lash out and make an absolute world beater fully spec'd model option, with all the bucks they make on music..even if their accountants say they will not sell many.
I will never get a desktop unit as I can only afford one unit/setup and as I am mainly a location and destination photographer I need maximum leverage on the road. Also I have realised that post production is now SOoooo much a big part of modern photography, you really need to get a start on a job before you come back to base and do as much as possible on the road..even if you are exhausted. ( oh for the old days when you just put dots on trannies and sent them off)
Great to hear that the current model is obviously good enough as well.
Cheers to all
G5 iMac & G4 ti powerbook Igb RAM   Mac OS X (10.4.6)   20'cinema display

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