MacBook Pro i5 2.4 Ghz versus MacBook Pro Core 2 Duo 3.06 Ghz???

Re: MacBook Pro i5 2.4 Ghz vs. MacBook Pro Core 2 Duo 3.06 Ghz
Hello,
I am new to CS5 / Photoshop (& Apple!) and am looking forward to diving in. However I am about to purchase either a used MacBook Pro Core 2 Duo 3.06 Ghz or the MacBook Pro i5 2.4 Ghz. Can anyone provide me with information as performance differences I may see between the 2 processors using CS5 for photo/video editing? I appreciate any insight!
The MacBook Pro Core 2 Duo 3.06 Ghz has been upgraded to 8GB of RAM, has the no glare screen, and a 750GB Hardrive. The new i5 I would buy is the lower end model. Less RAM and smaller HD, however they are obviously upgradeable in the future. It also would not have the no glare screen.
My biggest question is around performance of the the CPUs on Photoshop, etc ...??? That being said, there is a $300 difference and is the new machine worth it in performance???
Appreciate your help!

georgecoll wrote:
Re: MacBook Pro i5 2.4 Ghz vs. MacBook Pro Core 2 Duo 3.06 Ghz
Hello,
I am new to CS5 / Photoshop (& Apple!) and am looking forward to diving in. However I am about to purchase either a used MacBook Pro Core 2 Duo 3.06 Ghz or the MacBook Pro i5 2.4 Ghz. Can anyone provide me with information as performance differences I may see between the 2 processors using CS5 for photo/video editing? I appreciate any insight!
The MacBook Pro Core 2 Duo 3.06 Ghz has been upgraded to 8GB of RAM, has the no glare screen, and a 750GB Hardrive. The new i5 I would buy is the lower end model. Less RAM and smaller HD, however they are obviously upgradeable in the future. It also would not have the no glare screen.
My biggest question is around performance of the the CPUs on Photoshop, etc ...??? That being said, there is a $300 difference and is the new machine worth it in performance???
Appreciate your help!
If you're going to do serious Photoshopping, then more ram is better. But, without knowing the price differences, I'll be honest, go for the i5 version, it'll work better for you. It'll cost you about $120 to upgrade the RAM to 8GB (go to any reputable online dealer or Amazon). It'll cost you about $110 to upgrade to 1TB internal HDD. Both upgrade are user friendly and do not harm the warranty of the new MBP.
So, for $230 in upgrades, you'll have similar specs as the used one, but a much faster performing processor. Unless the Core 2 Duo is MUCH cheaper, I'd buy new, then immediately upgrade. I have the i7 processor, I did the upgrades, and whenever I turn on the Core 2 Duo, it feels like I'm using an abacus. OK, not that bad, but the difference on video encoding and photoshop/Aperture is huge.

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i picked already had thinking it meant the windows 7 x64 dvd.
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i saw version on there for every OS but windows 7 x64. not sure how to fix this can someone help me in what i am doing wrong.
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so i started over and reinstalled windows 7 x64 again.
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http://realitypod.com/2010/09/solved-macbook-pro-running-windows-7-missing-sm-bu s-driver/
but the problem is on my Snow Leopard Retail 10.6 disc i don't see this file
"D:\Boot Camp\Drivers\NVidia\NVidiaChipset64.exe"
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you're not planning to use the internal drive for audio though, are you?
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