Macbook Pro / Logic Pro 9 / CPU 'System Overload'

Dear Members - I have read a few threads from some google searches but can't find a solution to my current problem.
I have a MacBook Pro (2010):
Mac OS X
2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
8 GB 1067 MHz DDR3
I don't run much else on my MacBook other than MS Office, Firefox Web Browser and Logic Pro 9.
Now that my recording projects are getting more sufficient, I am using a lot more plug ins but running into the same problem over and over: 'System Overload'. My CPU maxes out and the programme stops.
I've followed a fair amount advice and done all the necessary adjustments in terms of Logic preferences to run smoother. However, I need to be in the position to have as many tracks and as many plug ins as I want!
I'm looking for advice on what I can to improve my machines performance. I love my MacBook Pro and wonder (and hope) there is something I can add to it to make things run smoother. For instance, I keep hearing about the new Mac Mini and wonder if there is any way I could hook both my systems up. I'm not sure whether that is possible and can confirm that my spec and technical knowledge isn't good at all.
I look forward to hearing from you. Please let me know if you need any more information.
Thanking you in advance!
Martin

Now that my recording projects are getting more sufficient, I am using a lot more plug ins but running into the same problem over and over: 'System Overload'. My CPU maxes out and the programme stops.
I've followed a fair amount advice and done all the necessary adjustments in terms of Logic preferences to run smoother. However, I need to be in the position to have as many tracks and as many plug ins as I want!
As many plugins as you want, did I hear that correctly? Every machine has is limits, a few of Logic's high end plugins can bring the most powerful Mac_Pro to it's knees if used incorrectly.
Personally, I'm not fond of using two machines, it's much more of a hassle than you might think.
I assume you're using a bus for effects where possible (instead of inserts).
And you are freezing tracks when necessary. If you're into the mixing stage of a project and do not need low latency, up the Logic audio I/O buffer to 1024. Try the Process buffer at Large.
Check out this article.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3161

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