MacPro 2,1 "8 Core" Graphics Card Options

I have the MacPro listed below with the ATI Radeon 1900. I'm on my second ATI Radeon 1900 and now this one is starting to have heat problems. If I keep the door open with a fan on, I'm fine. I'm sick of these 1900s. What other after market graphics cards can I put in this puppy. I don't seem to be able to find this information on my own.
Thank You!
Hardware Overview:
Model Name: Mac Pro
Model Identifier: MacPro2,1
Processor Name: Quad-Core Intel Xeon
Processor Speed: 3 GHz
Number Of Processors: 2
Total Number Of Cores: 8
L2 Cache (per processor): 8 MB
Memory: 6 GB
Bus Speed: 1.33 GHz
Boot ROM Version: MP21.007F.B06
SMC Version (system): 1.15f3
Serial Number (system): 157140G6UPZ
Hardware UUID: 00000000-0000-1000-8000-0019E3668B1A
ATI Radeon X1900 XT:
Chipset Model: ATY,RadeonX1900
Type: GPU
Bus: PCIe
Slot: Slot-1
PCIe Lane Width: x16
VRAM (Total): 512 MB
Vendor: ATI (0x1002)
Device ID: 0x7249
Revision ID: 0x0000
ROM Revision: 113-A52027-202
EFI Driver Version: 01.00.202
Displays:
Cinema HD:
Resolution: 1920 x 1200
Pixel Depth: 32-Bit Color (ARGB8888)
Main Display: Yes
Mirror: Off
Online: Yes
Rotation: Supported
Cinema Display:
Resolution: 1680 x 1050
Pixel Depth: 32-Bit Color (ARGB8888)
Mirror: Off
Online: Yes
Rotation: Supported

I also have the 2,1 Mac Pro and have used a number of Apple and reflashed GPU's and am still looking at others as well.
Here's my way oversimplified take:
1900X - Apple - Stable but a bit lost in Windows Ultimate 32.
8800GT - Apple - Stable, hot and slow by today's standards
8800GTS - Reflashed - Stable, hot and medium fast - Good option for the money
3870 - Reflashed - Stable and medium fast, but hot and noisy
4870 - Reflashed - Stable unless pushed to limits, fast, but hot
4890 OC - Reflashed - Stable and very fast - Not so hot as others - Reasonably quiet.
I'm now looking into a 285GTX which will need a "helper" GPU next to it due to the EFI32 issue. Interested in verifying this possibility and its heat consequences...
A couple of solid reputation reflashers out there are:
http://discussions.apple.com/post!reply.jspa?messageID=10669026
http://shop.ebay.com/paulslatest/m.html?nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&trksid=p4340
But there are more.
FYI
tyvol

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So... I am about to purchase a Mac Pro and have a few questions regarding the graphics card options.
I plan on using two 19" flat screens that I already have for my monitors. Obviously this can be accomplished without a card upgrade, but I would prefer to have as much video RAM as possible. If I went with a second GeForce 7300, in addition to the stock card, and output only one monitor from each card, would that in effect enable 256 mb of RAM per display? As upgrading to the X 1900, which has 512 mb of RAM, would be the same amout of RAM per display (512mb/2 displays).... I realize that the cards have different chips, engines, etc... I'm just trying to get the most bang for my buck and am wondering if that extra hundred dollars is really worth it. Much thanks, cheers!

I have a NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500 on my MacPro with two ACD 30" connected to it. No glitch, works perfect. But I would say that the X1900 is the best value to get when you'll perchase your MacPro. You don't say enough details about the usage you want from your computer (i.e. 3d or just e-mails...). But if it's just for internet browsing and e-mails, a NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT is more than enough to handle your two 19". If you think one day you'll have two 30" on you video card, go for the ATI card. If you do video rendering that needs VRAM or play 3D games, take the ATI card. If you have a lot of money to blow or just a geek take the FX4500. Anything else, just stick to the 7300 GT, it's more than enough for average users, less heat, quiet, and less electric consuption than the two others.
Cheers,
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I have a new MBP 17" laptop, and I can not change my graphic card options. I've looked at the support document (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3207) about changing the settings, but my problem is that the Energy Saver system pane does not give me the Graphics option in the top left of the window as shown in the support document. I've tried disconnecting the power supply to see if that would bring up the option, but to no avail.
Anybody else experience this or have any suggestions? I can't even tell which video processor the machine is currently using.

Take the computer to an Apple retailer or back to where you purchased it and have the problem fixed. The computer is under warranty. Otherwise the only thing you can try is to erase the hard drive and reinstall OS X or do the following if possible:
How to Perform an Archive and Install
An Archive and Install will NOT erase your hard drive, but you must have sufficient free space for a second OS X installation which could be from 3-9 GBs depending upon the version of OS X and selected installation options. The free space requirement is over and above normal free space requirements which should be at least 6-10 GBs. Read all the linked references carefully before proceeding.
1. Be sure to use Disk Utility first to repair the disk before performing the Archive and Install.
Repairing the Hard Drive and Permissions
Boot from your OS X Installer disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. When the menu bar appears select Disk Utility from the Installer menu (Utilities menu for Tiger.) After DU loads select your hard drive entry (mfgr.'s ID and drive size) from the the left side list. In the DU status area you will see an entry for the S.M.A.R.T. status of the hard drive. If it does not say "Verified" then the hard drive is failing or failed. (SMART status is not reported on external Firewire or USB drives.) If the drive is "Verified" then select your OS X volume from the list on the left (sub-entry below the drive entry,) click on the First Aid tab, then click on the Repair Disk button. If DU reports any errors that have been fixed, then re-run Repair Disk until no errors are reported. If no errors are reported, then quit DU and return to the installer.
2. Do not proceed with an Archive and Install if DU reports errors it cannot fix. In that case use Disk Warrior and/or TechTool Pro to repair the hard drive. If neither can repair the drive, then you will have to erase the drive and reinstall from scratch.
3. Boot from your OS X Installer disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. When you reach the screen to select a destination drive click once on the destination drive then click on the Option button. Select the Archive and Install option. You have an option to preserve users and network preferences. Only select this option if you are sure you have no corrupted files in your user accounts. Otherwise leave this option unchecked. Click on the OK button and continue with the OS X Installation.
4. Upon completion of the Archive and Install you will have a Previous System Folder in the root directory. You should retain the PSF until you are sure you do not need to manually transfer any items from the PSF to your newly installed system.
5. After moving any items you want to keep from the PSF you should delete it. You can back it up if you prefer, but you must delete it from the hard drive.
6. You can now download a Combo Updater directly from Apple's download site to update your new system to the desired version as well as install any security or other updates. You can also do this using Software Update.

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I hate thelack of consumer graphics cards options for the iMac. I was going to buy the 20" iMac and upgrade the memory to 256MB when I decided to check out the 24".
On the Canadian site, to upgrade the 20" X1600 card to 256MB is $150. On the 24", to go from the Geforce 7300 128MB to the Geforce 7600 256MB is only $90. Ram 'AND' better(slightly?) graphics card upgrade.
Can someone explain as I asked an Apple retailer and they couldn't.
I went into CompuSmart afterwards and they actually had a X1600 card but it had 512MB on it. (For $150, I'd think I'd get an upgrade to 512, not 256).
I guess us consumers don't need more powerful graphics cards.
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Let me see if I can explain this to you.
The grahics card in the iMac 20" is an ATI Radeon X1600. It comes standard with 128 MB of VRAM. You can upgrade the VRAM to 256 MB for $75 on the U.S. store. That's $150 on the Canadian store.
The standard graphics card in the 24" iMac is an NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT with 128 MB of VRAM. The upgrade option here is not just adding more VRAM, but putting a whole new card in the iMac. The 256 MB VRAM option for the iMac 24" is a NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT with 256 MB VRAM. That upgrade is $125 on the U.S. store. That's $90 on the Canadian store.
The only way I can think that this is possible is because, in Canada, ATI's cards might be more expensive than NVIDIA's cards.
There is no option on any iMac to get any graphics card with 512 MB of VRAM in it.
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Most of the Autodesk products (3DSMax and Revit) require an ATI FireGL Pro card ...yes I run evil Win7 via Bootcamp (works great if you have to be in the evil Win environment!).
I am just considering buying the MacPro (vs. an ugly PC box of some kind) and was wondering if anyone has substituted the Radeon cards for another?
I've been using my MBPro17 for 2 years now (Bootcamp, Win7, Revit, etc) and it has worked like a champ (something I cannot say for the PC laptops in the office), so this has led to the desire to get another Mac instead of a PC to work in the Windows environment.
Thanks

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If you're running multiple monitors a graphics upgrade will help quite a bit for those effects. Otherwise maybe not so much. It depends entirely on what you're doing and how much you're using those effects and what else you're doing with your video.

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Hi everyone.
I have an early MacPro (v1.1). I opted for the ATI X1900XT card upgrade when I purchased it. Like most other people on this forum, I encountered annoy issues such as lines appearing on screen, 'sparkly artifacts' and constant freezing. Even after cleaning out the dust from the graphics card's heatsinks and fans the problem persisted. So I then decided to install a thrid-party cooler system for the card. This changed nothing - I think the card has baked. Upgrading to snow leopard has seen some reduction in freezing but thats probably cause I'm running SMC fan controller at full blast, with the door open (not too crazy on that btw).
Enough is enough. I'm upgrading. However I'm a wee bit confused.
Yes I know that some "unsupported" cards such as the ATI HD4870 work with my mac.
Should I play it safe and go with an old GeForce 8800? or the HD3870? or the HD4870? or.. shudder purchase another X1900XT (that would have to be last resort, the price is outlandish for such an old card).
I will need to run two monitors for a bit (unfortunately both are VGA, via DVI adapters). One poster on another forum warned against the HD4870 for that reason. That sounds remarkable that the adapters wouldn't be compatible.
I'm using this machine primarily for editing. Gaming is of no interest here. Unfortunately, my knowledge of graphics card's inner workings are limited.
Many Thanks,
Dave.

I also understand that my MP would be PCIe v1.0 where as these cards use v2.0 - this is backwards compatible (please, correct me if I'm wrong) and in the worst case, I might not get the full bandwidth of the card. Still, a working, decent card is enough to satisfy me.
Price has become a factor - its looking more like I'll wind up getting the slightly older HD3870. That goes for AUD$475. These "mac tax" prices are ridiculous! Or the other option is go get a HD4870 via eBay, or OWC (which with shipping is still cheaper then any store in Australia).
8800GT is still available at one online store in Australia, for the ripe price of $500. Considering the price of it, I'd rather not invest in an older card.
I guess what I'm asking is people's experience and opinion on the HD3870 vs the HD4870.
And a clarification - the whole VGA thing; my monitors are LCDs, they just run through a VGA interface. The "analogue" support issues seem to be CRT related (again, please correct me if I'm wrong).

My 2006 Mac Pro (2.66 Dual-Core) graphics card has died on me...

After the loading screen, I usually get some form of this (Screen flickering and repeating itself) so I assume this is due to my graphics card not working properly?
I have a GeForce 7300 GT in my Mac Pro now and I'm wondering what to do now? Since I need a new GC, I might as well upgrade so what is the best card my computer can handle right now?
Also what are my other options if I wanted to upgrade my processors?
Any help is appreciated.

Every Mac Pro model running 10.6.4 or later can accept the Apple/ATI 5770, which uses one aux power cord. In the Mac Pro 1,1 (2006) or Mac Pro 2,1 (2007) they run slightly slower than their full rated speed due to PCIe 1 slots.
Be sure you get the version with Apple firmware, or it will not work under Mac OS X. Flashed PC cards will not light up until Mac OS X is fully loaded and running, making them useless when debugging.

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I have a first generation Quad Core Mac Pro with a Radeon X1900XT with dual DVI Connections for my two older Apple 24" LCD Displays. I want the best card to run Adobe CS5 and support dual DVI for my 2 monitors. I was told maybe the ATI 4870 or 5770. What would be the best card for CS5 and Final Cut Studio?

300 dollars.. 250 for the backplane board(661-5706), and for the single processor tray(661-5707) - your price may vary.. I got mine for 50 dollars.
so, for 300 dollars.. you can make your 2009 mac pro into a 2010.. and yes, you can use the same existing processors.. the good news is that 1333 mhz memory works with the following processors in the new board: W3570, W3580(High end 3.33 2009 mac pro quad which was 1400.00 extra as a configure to order on apple's store from a 2.66 quad-core at 2499.99), and finally the W3680.
I am running still my w3580 with now 8GB of DDR3 1333 mhz memory.. it was 1066, but i got 1333 for a great price..
If you want to know more information about this, please send me a private email.
I can help you if you want..
Please note: if you have the 4870 HD Apple version, and not pc flashed, the sensor reading is too high for the 2010's firmware... you will need the GT120 or the 5770 graphics card.. 5870 is not going to be available for sometime and there is rumor from AMD themselves stating the card might be EOL..

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I recently bought a HP Pavilion 500-424 and was interested in upgrading the graphics card for gaming purposes and wanted to know which graphics cards are compatible before I purchase a graphics card that doesnt fit or is not able to be used with my computer.

Hi,
No, nothing is compatible because
(a) No video card, it is AMD graphics (combined with the processor),
(b) Processor socket: None (processor is soldered to the motherboard)
http://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c04453602
That means if you wish to upgrade video "card" you have to upgrade CPU and if you wish to upgrade CPU you have to upgrade motherboard ===> buy a new machine.
Regards.
BH
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Any news on G5 dual-core graphics cards?

Still waiting for something faster than my lame 6600LE. Any news?

Keep us posted doug. Carsten (?) did exactly the same as you a few weeks ago and found it helped, but held-back slightly because of the 1.1 release. Hopefully 1.1.1 unleashes the 7800 power again.
I'm in no doubt the Marketing bods in Aperture overpromised with what the 6600 delivered. I'm in no doubt someone in the dual-core G5 team needs a slap for releasing the systems with zero video card upgrades - totally unacceptable for any system manufacturer to do. Then make them available for new Customers only - talk about forbidden fruit !
As for directing people's frustrations, i use these boards to mintain visibility of the problem, the Feedback system and a time limit. I've said before despite Joe's commendable efforts to investigate, if he cannot persuade the powers in Apple to actually do something by say June 10th, then we do other things dissatisfied Customers do that Companies get embarassed about - what else is there ? Its now seven months since they created the problem and nine weeks since Joe began investigating. My bigger worry is when the new MacPros arrive our concerns drop even further down the 'top-of-the-line mac systems' priority list.
I've become a broken record on this issue (again), but until its solved, my Aperture experience very seriously degraded. I continue to put-up with it because i can see how Aperture will be an asset to my workflow in for future business. Forbidden fruit again !

Need help with graphics card options for an early 2008 mac pro

Hello,
   I have an early 2008 mac pro with 2 x 3.2 GHz quad core Intel Xeon and 6Gigs of ram, currently running with an Nvidia Geforce 8800 GT with 512mb.
    It is also running 10.7.2.
   I would like to either add a video card on top of the one I am currently running or replace it completely if necessary.
   I do video editing on the Mac, no gaming and only a small amount of photoshop, and as the resolutions get larger I would like to have my machine keep up.
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     1. What cards would you the community suggest?
     2. Can I add a whole other card to my system or do I have to replace the current one?
     3. If I can hold two cards what special accomidations would be needed in regards to final cut performance if any?
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The two main cards for mac pros are the apple versions of the ATI Radeon 5770 and 5870.
The 5770 requires one aux power adaptor and the 5870 requires two. So generally you could only have one 5780 or two 5770's.
Video cards which don't require aux power should be able to coexist with these cards so log as it's all within the power supply maximums of course.

Graphics card options for 3x 2560x1440 displays

Point of cosideration:
Currenty have a 5770
Currenty have 3x 27" displays (WQHD). They have DP and DL/DVI so no adapters are needed even on a single card array
Display seems slightly laggy under certain conditions since upgrading my monitors
Would like to improve gaming performance in mac and bootcamp
Considering 5870, 2nd 5770, or 6870 (open to suggestions)
I don't want to run custom drivers or flash a card. My system is used primarily for development so as close to Apple approved spec is best for debugging. However since I hear Lion/ML added support for certain PC cards (6870 specifically) I'm considering that for the cost/performance gains since it shouldn't break with OS updates, etc.
Not interested in discontinued models, used, ebay, etc. as a means for a secondary display card.
Cost is a factor but not the only one. If the 5870 is a better peformance option all around than a 2gb 6870 then it's price is justified since it's also a standard Apple config.
Would 2x5770 be better for day to day work (photoshop, etc.) than a 5870 due to the extra VRAM? How would this compare to a 6870 2gb? Or is the desktop environment going to see a better performance gain from the 5870 since it's the most powerful GPU (though only 1gb of ram). Are there Nvidia options I'm overlooking (again, no flashing, compatible with standard OS install, no custom drivers required, CUDA driver addon acceptable since it's not required for the base system config).

Focusing just on the stock options of dual 5770 or single 5870:
5870 is obviously higher performance for a single screen, and works fine in OS X and Bootcamp, however with 3 screens would I be overall better off with dual 5770's? run the 2 side screens on one card, and the main screen on another providing more vram for each screen. In theory I could crossfire the 5770's for bootcamp (os x doesn't use crossfire, but my understanding is it just ignores it if you install a bridge...) which is similar (a little lower) than a 5870 in performance... if I'm right in these assumptions then dual 5770 seems to give the following advantages
Improved OS X system performance since each screen has more vram to work with
Improved OS X gaming again because the main screen has it's own vram
Improved Bootcamp gaming due to crossfire (single screen in windows)
Cheaper
Still standard apple config
Disadvantages
Much lower single screen performance vs 5870 in mac OS
Lower single screen performance vs 5870 in bootcamp (not as much lower due to crossfire though)
Still not as good a price/performance ratio vs. breaking from a stock config
What about newer ATI cards? Can't find anything confirming or denying that the 7xxx series is supported in Mountain Lion... if it is supported presumably it would be more stable than Nvidia since it would be using the same base drivers as the standard ATI cards which apple supports...

Best graphics card for CC on Macbook Pro

Hello,
I'm not very techy so am hoping for an experts advice. Looking for the best graphics card option for programs like Edge Animate, Photoshop, After Effects and Premier. I want to get a few more years out of this machine if possible, any update advice would be great.
My system:
Macbook Pro 17" (2010)
Processor 2.8 GHz Intel Core i7
Memory 8 GB 1067 MHz DDR3
Graphics NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M 512 MB
Software OS X 10.9.1 (13B42)
Model Name:
MacBook Pro
Model Identifier:
MacBookPro6,1
Processor Name:
Intel Core i7
Processor Speed:
2.8 GHz
Number of Processors:
1
Total Number of Cores:
2
L2 Cache (per Core):
256 KB
L3 Cache:
4 MB
Memory:
8 GB
Processor Interconnect Speed:
4.8 GT/s
Boot ROM Version:
MBP61.0057.B0F
SMC Version (system):
1.57f18
Serial Number (system):
Hardware UUID:
Intel HD Graphics:
Chipset Model:    Intel HD Graphics
Type:    GPU
Bus:    Built-In
VRAM (Total):    288 MB
Vendor:    Intel (0x8086)
Device ID:    0x0046
Revision ID:    0x0018
gMux Version:    1.9.22
Kind Regards,
Leah =)

Short answer--buy the Apple drive if it is an exact match and you are not buying from Apple.
I had a Toshiba in my last MacBook Pro and was not impressed compared to other SSD drives (above) I've used. It was the slowest SSD I've owned--but still plenty fast. However, if you are buying it off eBay, it is not a bad idea to get an exact duplicate of what you have--saves money and the RAID 0 configuration would nearly double the performance--you would not be unhappy.
I don;t like Crucial, but I have no experience with them, other than reviews, and Newegg reviews are not that great, from what I recall. Check for yourself though.
Finally you can RAID 0 two different drives. I would lean away from that, but it can be done if you want to save a few bones. Performance would be at the rate of the slower drive. Why, if you can get two identical drives?

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I am wanting to upgrade my G4's graphics card.. it currently has the rage 128pro with 16mb vram. I know that I have to put a mac specific card in.. I want to go at least 128mb vram but I don't know how many pins mine has. I don't know to figure it out. could someone help me please.
here are the specs from the serial # identifier..
Serial number: XA0482M3J3B
Name: Power Macintosh G4 (Gigabit Ethernet)
Model: M7891(?) PowerMac G4 400MHz/450MHz-DP/500MHz-DP Drive=DVD-RAM BTO
Bus speed: 100MHz
Family name: M5183
Factory: XA (ElkGrove/Sacramento, California)
URL: Technical specifications by apple-history.com codetonumber: 2M3 - XA0482M3J3B
Model introduced: 2000
Production year: 2000
Production week: 48 (December)
Production number: 3029 (within this week)
here are the specs from the system profiler on the current graphics card...
.ATY,Rage128Pro:
Chipset Model: ATY,Rage128Pro
Type: Display
Bus: AGP
Slot: SLOT-A
VRAM (Total): 16 MB
Vendor: ATI (0x1002)
Device ID: 0x5046
Revision ID: 0x0000
ROM Revision: 113-72701-130
Displays:
SyncMaster:
Resolution: 1024 x 768 @ 75 Hz
Depth: 32-bit Color
Core Image: Not Supported
Main Display: Yes
Mirror: Off
Online: Yes
Quartz Extreme: Not Supported
this is what the system profiler says about the machine.Hardware Overview:
Machine Name: Power Mac G4
Machine Model: PowerMac3,3
CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (2.9)
Number Of CPUs: 1
CPU Speed: 400 MHz
L2 Cache (per CPU): 1 MB
Memory: 512 MB
Bus Speed: 100 MHz
Boot ROM Version: 3.3.4f1
Serial Number: XA0482M3J3B
Sales Order Number: M7891LL/A
can I upgrade the processer with a faster single processor?
I hope someone can help me.. greatly appreciated..
oh.. and is the gigabit ethernet a good g4? I just got this mac and I love it so far.

Other 2x AGP compatible graphic card options (most of the following will work in all AGP G4's, some will not work in the Sawtooth):
_Mac/Converted PC versions:_ (Mac versions historically available/PC versions successfully converted)
Radeon 7500
Radeon 8500
Radeon 9000 Pro
Radeon 9800 Pro
GeForce 2MX
Geforce3
_Converted Cards (flashed PC)_ (many have OS restrictions, as well as Uni-N version requirements)
Radeon 9500 (Pro)
Radeon 9700 (Pro)
Geforce4 Ti 4200
Geforce4 Ti 4600
Geforce FX5200
Geforce 6200
The ASUS nVidia GeForce 2 MX400 is said to work in a GE, DA, QS as is (no flashing) but VGA only.
Some card model versions are 4x only, which won't work in a GE. A 2x/4x, or 2x/4x/8x compatible card will.
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G4 Dual 450mhz
G4 Dual 500Mhz

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