MacPro 5.1 internal HD limit?

I have a MacPro 5.1 and currently have 3ea 1TB drives installed.
Does this model have any kind of internal HD limit?
I have read it maxes out at 8TBs, but I'm thinking that because 2TB drives were the largest available when it was introduced, but am concerned that their may be a limit per channel. I have also read there "was" an issue with HFS+ with larger than 2TB drives, but I"m assuming that's been addressed, but has it?
I would like to a) add a 4TB drive in bay 4 and b) replace the 1TB in bay 3 with a second 4TB drive, thus giving me a total of 10TBs of internal storage.
Will I have issues with this plan?

WD REDs are for NAS and hardware. There have been problems using those individually inside the Mac Pro. I was going to buy one to see why even... and move it to a PC or attach to my router.
There is not an individual channel per drive. They all share a rather weak single controller. Same as Intel SATA ports etc on any motherboard. And it does not even come close to 1.2GB (300MB x 4, with actual being 250 after overhead, more like 175MB/sec and less than 800MB total.
The 2009 Mac Pro 4,1 also has an issue with the 4x PCIe slots, they do something that results in less than ideal.
A lot of things we took for granted and didn't know until SSDs could push the bandwidth further.
There are limits but not in the drive capacity department. For tips and someone who is into some serious photography and maxed out Mac Pro (VAR also) see:
http://www.macperformanceguide.com
WE have almost always seen issues with green drives, or some users, and lately a huge spat of Seagate related issues. Those are not indicative of 7.2k drives from other vendors. And some don't work in external cases and come up against the bridge+firmware used with FW800 or USB3 on Mac.
MacGurus has been a long time Seagate reseller and probably is up on what is going on with their drives. I have WD Green in all my systems, for data and for TimeMachine. No sweat with any ever in 4 yrs.
If you use Windows then use WD Lifeguard on your drives even before use, esp. if they will hold a lot of precious data or doubly so if used in software array. And if mirror or stripped then check out
http://www.softraid.com product instead - at least until 10.9 rolls out.

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