Maemo vs symbian

Hey guys, I dont know if the subject is correct.
As I said before, I'm new to symbian.  But i've read that the Maemo is a new operating system based on Linux.  True?
couple of questions:
1.  Is Maemo a better OS than symbian?
2.  Does that mean that over the next year we'll be seeing more phones with Maemo?
3.  What are the phones requirements to support Maemo?
I guess these questions are a little ignorant but I'd like to learn more.  You see, I was planning on buying another phone for my spouse and she wants a Nokia because I've a nokia.  I was planning on the 5330 (the TV one) but it just never seems to come out.  So since my symbian 60 v5 isnt that great, I was thinking maybe Maemo.

Hey guys, I dont know if the subject is correct.
As I said before, I'm new to symbian.  But i've read that the Maemo is a new operating system based on Linux.  True?
couple of questions:
1.  Is Maemo a better OS than symbian?
2.  Does that mean that over the next year we'll be seeing more phones with Maemo?
3.  What are the phones requirements to support Maemo?
I guess these questions are a little ignorant but I'd like to learn more.  You see, I was planning on buying another phone for my spouse and she wants a Nokia because I've a nokia.  I was planning on the 5330 (the TV one) but it just never seems to come out.  So since my symbian 60 v5 isnt that great, I was thinking maybe Maemo.

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    * Profile ordering - On previous Symbian handsets, and also previously with Symbian^3 / Anna, it was possible to order your profiles however you wanted. There was also more than four default profiles. However, with Belle it seems that if you rename any of those first four, they retain their position, regardless of alphabetisation. For example, if you created a fifth profile called "Silent (Office)", it would appear in fifth place, rather than directly beneath "Silent" as you would expect
    * Renaming the default "Silent" profile conflicts with the dropdown menu function - If you rename the default "Silent" profile to something else (Ie, "Loud"), and also change the profile settings (such as turning the volume right up), then this renders the silence feature in the dropdown menu redundant! You can still select the "Silent" function from the dropdown menu, but it will activate / deactivate whatever profile occupies that second slot, regardless of whether you have it set as silent or something else
    * The camera interface - Once again, an example of moving icons when they didn't need to be moved! I used to find that the location of the various camera settings was perfect with Anna, but now they're all along the bottom. Why did they need to be moved? This is perhaps just nitpicking, and doesn't really bother me as much as other changes, but I see no reason why some things need to be changed for the sake of changing things!
    Things that needed to be fixed, and still haven't:
    * Calculator - In this day and age a smartphone should have an advanced calculator, similar to many hi-end scientific calculators. At the very least, a basic calculator shoud have a "clear screen" button! We shouldn't have to exit the application and relaunch it in order to do a new calculation!
    * The music player - Artists and Albums should be separate. End of! If youre choosing a new ringtone, you can browse by either Song, Artist, or Album, so why isn't this the same for the music player? This has annoyed me ever since I first got my N8, but seems like something Nokia are reluctant to fix, despite complaints from the majority of users. Also, why is there still no user-definable equaliser?

    bumblebirra wrote:
    GeminiPhoenix, you make plenty of valid points, but I think you need to try to give Belle a chance and then you might start noticing small things like the ability to simply delete any unwanted homescreens, and then it might begin to grow on you. I can understand your frustration at what you feel have been unnecessary changes (to Belle itself) but... well, I guess it must have been a MAJORLY serious age-old problem that forced you to risk the upgrade.
    Your complaints about the Belle widgets are all justified and hopefully Nokia are listening and will do something about them in due course.
    Even though I'd like more widgets, and more implementations of various settings into widgets, I find Belle to be be intuitive enough to make it an enjoyable experience - no less than Anna anyway.
    I agree, Nokia should give the option to revert back to previous operating systems.
    If I loved Anna so much, I wouldn't have cared less for latest and fastest software for my device. It would have taken a very serious problem to make me take the risk of changing it.
    I admit I may have jumped the gun on one or two issues, and I have since discovered how to delete unwanted homescreens. However, this just proves that the option is well hidden away in a very specific place, where I would have probably not looked had someone not directed me to it. Therefore I formerly retract that issue from my list, but I will add that I feel such options should be more visible, especially as we don't have a user manual to flick through and we're expected to just figure this stuff out on our own!
    I have also discovered that the Wi-Fi needs to be prioritised in order to automatically connect when in range of my home network. Again, this is not made clear, and the required settings are hidden away in an obscure folder where most normal people wouldn't think to look... I also retract this from my list
    As for the "age-old problem" - This thread should answer everything:
    /t5/Messaging-Email-Browsing-and/Urgent-help-required-N8-refuses-to-send-text-messages-after-6/td-p/...
    It was indeed a serious problem, and the only way to fix it was to update to the newest software version. No doubt the problem will occur again in a few months time, and I'll have to do the same again...
    However, where I initially aimed to fix one problem, Belle has posed several new ones, such as the headphones no longer working, and the text messaging interface being rearranged based on the assumption that everyone texts using the Conversations feature. Two things I use every single day, and pretty much everywhere I go.
    I am also glad that you support my complaints about the widgets, so thank you. I know they're only minor issues, but they're the most used, and I fail to understand why they decided to change certain ones. The whole widget system overhaul is great, but it's ruined by the larger widgets which formerly used to be much more compact. For example, the music player and eMail widgets are the largest and most waste of space, whereas the clock / calendar / profile cluster was perfect, so why separate them so that they take up twice as much space on the homescreen?
    I too hope they're paying attention, and I have openly shared my thoughts with the Nokia team via Twitter. I would suggest everyone else does the same if they feel the same way
    I liked Anna. Whlist I did miss the old PR 1.2 icons, and disliked the coloured blobs, I could live with it. I thought Belle would be more of the same, with just a few tweaks here and there to things that needed fixing, but it seems like something entirely different. At the very least, I expected certain things to stay the same, with the improvements being under-the-hood so to speak
    As I have said before, certain aspects didn't need touching. They were perfectly fine as they were. Belle would function just as well if they had've left the widgets as they were. I appreciate that they've done a lot of work making certain aspects run faster, but some things weren't broken, so why try to fix them? Even more frustrating is the fact that other issues have yet again been ignored, such as the terrible music player interface, which almost everybody wants changing back to something similar to the S60 v5.0 era

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