Mail Account set to Manual, Checks Automatically

I'm using the iPhone 3g (2.1 FW) with 2 mail accounts. One is a POP account which I have set to manual, the other is a Gmail account that I have set to check every 15 minutes.
The phone seems to be checking both automatically.
I have read in other threads that simply opening the Mail app is considered the trigger to a manual check. I can live with that. (Though it should not be that way.)
But I am occasionally receiving mail in the account that is on manual, even when the Mail app is not running.

I am also having an issue with my iPhone 4 mail client.
Prior to upgrading to the 4 from my 3GS, the Mail app would only download new mail when prompted to manually (ie, on app launch or on manual check).
Currently, all settings indicate that mail is set to fetch only manually, yet is downloaded 100% of the time without prompting when launching any of the following apps:
Yelp
Phone
iPod
It launches intermittently with any of the following apps (between 50% and 75% of the time):
Facebook
Photos
Camera
Tron
Breakspin
Wikipedia
Messages
The mail app also randomly downloads intermittently, without any prompting from myself as a user.
I have checked, rechecked, and triplechecked the settings. Push is off, fetch is set to manual in all applicable locations, and I have rebooted and reset the phone. I've even gone so far as to restore from a backup, to no avail.
My accounts are checking from MobileMe and from a personal (non-Yahoo, non-AT&T) e-mail account.
This is, needless to say, most frustrating.
Apple, any chance of a bit of feedback, here?

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