Mail and Ethernet/Airport
Hi,
Can someone make sense of this apparently illogical behavior of Mail.app when using the built-in Ethernet ?
In the office on the company network ( via ethernet cable ) :
Mail.app does not connect to mail server. No airport available.
Thunderbird connects just fine, can retrieve and send.
Safari works fine.
At home or hotel ( with VPN connected to company network via Airport ) :
Mail.app works !, but not yet tried cable connection to the same router.
Thunderbird works as it does in the office, flawlessly.
Safari works.
In hotel room ( with VPN connected to company network via ethernet cable ) :
Mail.app doesn't work !
Thunderbird works !
Safari works ( of course ).
Huh ? Am I crazy thinking that it is the ethernet connection to Mail.app that is specifically "broken". That doesn't make any sense to me, how about you ?
Thanks in advance,
Mark
Ernie,
You are a genius !! It worked. :o))))
Thanks so much for the quick reply and solution. I have no clue how the SOCKS proxy got checked in the ethernet panel. I have been banging my head against the metaphorical wall for two months with this.
Dinner is on me ! :o)
Mark
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