Mail.app and mixed encoding messages

Hello!
Here is my case: I have messages in UTF-8, sent by MS Outlook Express, that have a few lines of text (attached, I think, by a mail server) in another encoding (ISO Latin 1). Unfortunately, Mail.app always displays those messages using the second encoding - ISO Latin 1, even if I choose "UTF-8" manually from the menu. So the main part of the letter is unreadable. One may think that Mail.app tries to determine the encoding automatically... and fails. Does anyone know this issue and, maybe, the way to combat it?
Thank you.
Mac Mini Mac OS X (10.4.3)

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I disabled my mail account on my iPhone first, then disabled it on my Mac.
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