Mail.app + IMAP Gmail

HI all,
I need some help.
I use Gmail exclusively for my e-mail, I have two separate accounts (campus + personal) that I am using w/ Mail.app. One account is a Gmail EDU (Google Apps) account, and the other is a regular Gmail account.
Here's my issue...
I've set up both Gmail accounts as IMAP accounts, however, I've noticed that Mail.app will automatically put a check in the box "Save Sent Mail on Server" despite unchecking this box. According to Google, "Save Sent Mail on Server" should be unchecked. (see link below).
*http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=78892*
I'll uncheck the box, however, later on after I've sent mail from the Gmail account, I'll see an _[IMAP]/Sent Messages_ folder in my Gmail account. I'll delete the label, go back into Mail.app, and sure enough "Save Sent Mail on Server" is checked!
I've deleted both ~/Library/name/Preferences/com.apple.mail.plist and _~/Library/name/Application Support/Mail/._ << Doesn't matter, it still will keep checking that box.
I've tested this on two, separate Macs (my MBP and iMac) and the issue persists on both machines, so I'm guessing it's a bug. The funny part is my EDU account (which is also a Google Gmail account, but .EDU) does not do this--only the Gmail account.
Thoughts?

This might be a solution for you to accomplish that.
SOLUTION 1:
Create a rule in Mail as follows:
"TO" > "Contains" > "email address for that account"
Action:
"Mark Message as Read"
All you messages will be marked as read and won't appear in the message count, but you won't know what's new when you look at that account.
or
SOLUTION 2:
I tested this using the Important Label in gmail, but should also would work if you create a new label in gmail.
Create a label (Example: Inbox 2) in gmail. Choose to show in IMAP, but leave it under the IMAP folder in Mail. Create a rule in Mail:
"TO" > "Contains" > "email address for that account"
Action:
"Move Message " to mailbox "select the mailbox you created under the gmail folder"
Now, every message going to that account will now be moved to the mailbox you created under the gmail folder, so it won't appear under the main inbox. You can still access and control those messages under the gmail folder.

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