Mail downloading deleted messages

I have three pop3 mail accounts, each set to delete messages on the server 7 days after download. Since iCloud was enabled, messages I have already deleted on my iPad are re downloaded. Is tis intended behavior?

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Httmpmail messed up Mail. Deleted messages stay in inbox now.

Alright, I already had Daniel Parnell's httpmail hotmail plugin installed. I saw he had a newer version and downloaded and installed accordingly. Then when I opened Mail, I saw that all my messages for the past two days were gone. Also, when I delete a message from my inbox in Mail, it greys out but still stays there, not moving to Trash.
I went into library>mail>bundles and deleted the httpmail plugin and restarted Mail but still have the same problem. I dont care about the stupid plugin now, I just want my messages back and want my Mail program to operate correctly again.
What can I do to fix this?

Try rebuilding your Mail index like this:
1. Quit Mail if it's running.
2. Go to ~/Library/Mail and delete the Envelope Index file(s).
3. Restart Mail and wait for it to import your existing mail. When that's done, everything should be back to normal.
Mulder

IOS Mail permanently deletes messages

I've noticed several times that the iOS mail client occasionally does an unprompted permanent-delete of messages in my trash can. There's a similar complaint about it from 2008 (https://discussions.apple.com/thread/1362228?start=15&tstart=0).
I've got the following setup:
iOS 6.1.2
Gmail account via Exchange
Here are the steps that occurred:
Opened Mail to view new messages in inbox
Deleted several messages (sent them to trash)
Inadvertently deleted a message I wanted to keep
Went to trash folder, which started a download of the most recent contents of my trash folder
Saw the messages I just deleted
The download of my trash folder completes, causing the messages I just deleted to get permanently deleted
I can't see the messages I deleted anywhere, not in the Gmail app, nor in the Gmail web client.
I've never seen this behavior in any other client except for iOS Mail. I'm not sure if it's issue with the app, the way it handles the Exchange protocol, or the way Gmail talks to the Exchange protocol. Any ideas? This seems like really bad bug.

I have no idea what or why this happened!
All of a sudden, I'm able to delete read mail and have it appear in the trash (as it should) and am able to read it there, and remain there, until I want to permanently delete it!!!
I'm convinced this had to be an Apple problem but really haven't seen anything confirming this.
Note:
Even though I was unable to see the mail in the trash it was still on my comp. I just had to hunt for it...Library/Mail/Deleted Messages, so all wasn't lost.
Thanks for all you people do to help us frustrated but happy MAC'ers. I wouldn't trade
my MAC for anything.

Why doesn't Apple mail download Gmail messages that were sent to myself?

When I e-mail myself to my Gmail address, the message sits in the Gmail inbox but Apple
Mail doesn't download it.
Mail downloads every other message in the Gmail inbox, but not the ones i've addressed to myself to my Gmail address.
Any ideas for why this is happening?

Gmail POP access doesn’t work like a normal POP mail server would. Here are some of its idiosyncrasies:
1. Messages downloaded by any conventional POP mail client are marked as downloaded at the server (but not as read on the web), and no longer available to either the same or any other POP mail client.
2. To make already downloaded messages available for POP access again, you must go to Gmail’s Settings > Forwarding and POP page, select Enable POP for all mail, and click Save Changes, which causes everything (and I mean everything) still on the server to be downloaded again.
3. The Mail > Preferences > Accounts > Advanced > Remove copy from server settings have absolutely no effect on the messages stored on Gmail’s server. Gmail ignores any requests to delete messages from the server made by a POP client. What happens to the messages on the server after a POP client has downloaded them is determined by Gmail’s Settings > Forwarding and POP > When messages are accessed with POP setting alone. In the case of Gmail (and only in that case), I recommend turning OFF Remove copy from server in Mail, so that Mail doesn’t even try to remove any messages from the server, regardless of whether you do actually want already downloaded messages to be removed from the server after some time or not.
4. Messages sent using the web interface will be downloaded by your POP mail client as if they were received messages. Although this may seem weird, it's good because it allows archiving all messages locally in Mail, regardless of how they were sent — as long as you don't access the same Gmail account with more than one POP mail client, that is. You can set up a rule in Mail to automatically route those messages to the appropriate Sent mailbox (or to any other mailbox for that matter) if that's what you want.
5. Messages sent using a POP/SMTP mail client such as Mail are also treated as if they were incoming messages for POP purposes, just as in #4. What prevents them from being downloaded is that Gmail marks them as already downloaded immediately. Since they’re on the server nonetheless, already sent messages would be downloaded together with all the other messages on the server if proceeding as described in #2.
6. A particular case of #5 are messages sent to yourself. Instead of putting a copy of the sent message in the server’s Inbox and making it available for download, both the sent and the “received” message on the server are actually one and the same, and hence, cannot be downloaded via POP for the reason explained in #5.
7. Gmail allows POP accounts to be set up in a special way that avoids some of these issues while introducing others. If you only need POP access to the last 30 days of mail, you may configure Mail in “recent mode”, as described in Using POP on multiple clients or mobile devices. Configuring the account this way would allow Mail to download messages marked by Gmail as already downloaded (and download messages sent to yourself in particular), but it would also cause all sent messages (not just messages sent to yourself or through webmail) to be downloaded as if they were received messages.

Mail downloads all messages– how to stop it

Using OS 10.9.1 now, but this behavior is for previous OS versions, as well.
I use Mail with Yahoo IMAP, and it downloads all messages to my hard drive. Can I set it not to do that? The preferenences are set to " Check for new messages manually" and have been for years, but it still downloads every message. Is the "checking" process independent of the downloading of messages? I kind of thought I could control these two processes. In other words, can I set Mail to download only the messages that are less than one year old or to show the messages, but not download them? I know I can use the web to view without downloading, but here in China, the web is sometimes "off" for Yahoo, while a mail client can still show Yahoo email, so it is often necessary to use the Mail app to see email. I just don't need them saved to my hard drive.

I was searching to see if Apple Mail and Yahoo Imap downloads everything when I came across your post! While I like that, it would be good if someone could tell us where the setting/option is for it.
Perhaps in Yahoo itself? Nah! That doesn't make sense. It should be on the client side (if I have my terminology correct!)

How to stop iOS7 Mail from deleting messages from server?

Recently I started using an iPhone 5S after over four years with an iPod Touch. The Mail app on the iPhone deletes messages from my server. I do not want it to do this, I cannot find the option to turn off in Settings, and the iOS Mail help page at Apple Support is for an older OS version. Insight and advice would be appreciated. Thanks.

I think I figured out a workaround at least. It appears that the "Power Nap" feature is doing the mail checking. Although the concise descriptions of Power Nap say it "allows your Mac to do things like periodically check for new mail, calendar, and other iCloud updates" (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5394?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US), it apparently doesn't just allow these actions, it does them -- regardless of your mail settings. I suspect this is a bug.
Turning off Power Nap (in the Energy Saver panel in System Preferences) stopped the unwanted mail fetching, but unfortunately that also means that I don't get the benefit of the other activities it does, like Spotlight indexing. There are two places to turn it off, one for the "Battery" tab and one for the "Power Adapter" tab.
Since Power Nap was introduced with Mountain Lion, but I never had the problem until Mavericks, I assume that either (1) Power Nap was off by default in Mountain Lion but is on by default in Mavericks, or (2) this is another of several Mail problems introduced by Mavericks.

Mac mail automatically deletes messages from two weeks prior

I'm using Mac Mail on 10.6.8 - snow leopard. I use this program for my work emails and mail will automatically delete messages in my Inbox that are two weeks old. The email account is IMAP. I have looked in the "Account Preferences/ Advanced" and can not find a setting to correct this. What am I missing?

Are you sure it's Mail that's doing this? It could be on the other end (the server end).
Mac Mail has a preference for "Remove copy from server after retrieving a message", but there's no choice for 2 weeks, so I doubt that's it.

HT3376 I have a Yahoo plus account. When I set up the mail account the Bulk Mail (Trash), Deleted Messages,Draft,Drafts,Junk, and Sent Folders all appear on my iPhone. Is there a way to prevent this?

I have a Yahoo Account. When I set up the mail account the Bulk Mail, Deleted Messages, Draft, Drafts, Junk, Sent, and Sent Messages appear on all of my iPhones, my PC, my Macbook and any other wifi product that receives mail. Can anyone tell me how to get rid of these duplicate mailbox folders??
Thanks

I just called apple care to even know how to respond to this answer. I am very old and this was my first post ever. I appreciate you taking the time to give me an answer. I also ask them how to delete this account because every time I log in it wants me to change my password and I have run out of passwords. I don't even know what it means when it ask me the community I want to be in.
The only thing I know about syncing is syncing my iPhone to my MacBook Pro. I apologize that I am so technically stupid. Does mail have syncing???
Thank you even if I never figure out how to get back to this site again.

My mail cannot delete message

so i just got my macbook and im having a bit of trouble. when i go to mail and try to delete a message i get this exact message The message “YouTube Message: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 123k” could not be moved to the mailbox “Deleted Messages — AOL” "The IMAP command “UID COPY” (to Deleted Messages) failed for the mailbox “INBOX” with server error: UID COPY failed Deleted Messages: no such mailbox." i dont know why. im going to the genius bar soon, maybe they can help. please respond

Hi snipereye!
Is this KB Article Mac OS X 10.5, Mail: Unable to delete messages in AOL-based mail account helpful?
ali b

Mountain Lion Mail randomly deletes messages: locally and from server

Hello,
Mountain Lion Mail deletes mails randomly, locally and from the IMAP server.
I have confirmed this for a fact:
- I have been forwarded lost mails to another (webmail) account: the timestamps indicate that some mails were lost somewhere before I ever saw them on Mail
- my mail service provider confirmed that their logs show mails that I never saw on Mail
- the lost mails don't appear via webmail, either, i.e. they're not on the server
Others are experiencing the same in Lion:
http://www.seifi.org/email/lion-mail-app-deletes-imap-emails-without-notice-gmai l-important-fix.html
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3206902
I became aware of this as my customer referred on the phone to messages from them that I had never seen. And, Mail deletes messages randomly from the IMAP server too - it's literally eating messages!
No, this is not a rule issue. No, this is not anything I could have done to cause. This should be evident as very many others are experiencing the same (see the above links).
This is the worst bug I've ever encountered in any Apple product.
Apple need to acknowledge this and address it, like, immediately.
Is there a fix for this? One that works 100% - I really can't risk not receiving business e-mail.
br Janne

I'm experiencing something similar. I see a message being received in Mountain Lion via notification. When I'm going to look for this mail, it's gone.
I dont't have any rules set up and no mail plugins installed. The mail is also vanished from the server. I'm using IMAP on my own web-site (via a service provider). I was able to verify, that a certain message from a certain sender dissapeard, which had a PDF attached. I thought it might have something to do with my ISPs virus protection, but they a) insured me, that they don't delete any mail and b) I got a new mail from someone I don't know this morning. Again: Saw the notification, afterwards the mail is gone.
For now, I will switch to ThunderBird (this was also the recommendation of my ISP).
Kind regards
Marco Heine

Yahoo Mail Plus Deleting Messages ?

The touch apparently does not give you the option of either deleting your Yahoo! messages from the Yahoo! server after downloading them, or leaving them on the Yahoo! server so you can see them online.
When I delete them from the touch they are still available online. Is there a way to change this ?

They don't, they say your other e-mail program should offer this option.
In your Gmail account do you have HTMl images blocked ? If so does this option carry over to the touch ?

Mail downloads oldest messages instead of most recent

I've recently setup hotmail using POP3 settings on the mail application on my Ipod Touch. The only problem is that it downloads the 50 OLDEST messages (out of 1000s) instead of the 50 most RECENT messages. I like to keep an archive of old emails on the hotmail server for reference, so I don't want to move or delete the old messages, but I want the most recent messages to display on the Ipod. Can anyone help with this issue?

Hi,
I have the same problem but with another email provider. Have you found a solution to the reverse order problem yet? I have to scroll through about 1000 email until the most recent are found.

Mail wont delete messages, only archive

When I open my G-Mail account in the Mail application, when i select "Inbox" and i want to delete a message, it wont allow me to delete the message, it'll ONLY let me "Archive" the message. How can i change that to delete that to have to option to delete instead?

A Google search is your friend with a wealth of info at your disposal just a mouse click or two away.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4207

Mail downloading phantom messages

Hi everybody. Something strange is happening from about 2/3/ days ago. When I open Mail, on the Mail activity box there are 6 messages downloading but then no new message show up in any of the mailboxes. This is happening every 10-15 minutes. I have checked in the spam folder and there are no messages there either. The normal mail functions (sending and receiving)are working fine, but I wonder if i should be worried about this Mail behavior. Thanks for any help

I'm having the same issue. Have you figured it out?

Setting parameters for Verizon mail to delete messages

I can no longer find how to adjust when my Verizon mail messages will be deleted from the inbox. I use Outlook as my mail and it used to be that messages would be deleted from the Verizon in box when they were deleted from my Outlook deleted items. Suggestions?

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I can no longer find how to adjust when my Verizon mail messages will be deleted from the inbox. I use Outlook as my mail and it used to be that messages would be deleted from the Verizon in box when they were deleted from my Outlook deleted items. Suggestions?
That is actually a setting within Outlook, not Verizon webmail. Which version of Outllook are you using?
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