Mail features in Lion Server

I work for a small company that only has three machines; one Mac and two PCs. Currently we're using gmail as our email provider.
Long story short, we bought an all-in-one printer that has a scan to email feature. However, the printer only provides "Login/Plain" SMTP authentication, and gmail requires SSL or TLS authentication to send and receive emails. We're looking at a few different possibilites on how to get this fixed, which lead me here.
Is it possible to set up email accounts on Lion Server that will accept emails without SSL or TLS authentication? Will Lion server still work well with the two PCs we have? And will I be able to continue to use my iMac for the design work I do now if I load Lion Server on it?
I don't mind recommending the purchase, I just want to make sure it will solve our issues before doing so. Thanks in advance for any help!

Is it possible to set up email accounts on Lion Server that will accept emails without SSL or TLS authentication?
Yes. That's the default. You have to take extra steps to support SSL/TLS.
Will Lion server still work well with the two PCs we have?
Yes. email is pretty ubiquitous nowadays, and even PCs can connect to a standard UNIX mail server.
And will I be able to continue to use my iMac for the design work I do now if I load Lion Server on it?
Yes. Running server adds several background services to your machine, but if you're just running mail it won't be noticeable.
I don't mind recommending the purchase, I just want to make sure it will solve our issues before doing so.
There are many other issues involved in running your own mail server.
Are you planning/hoping to use this server for all your mail? including email coming in to your users?
If so you're going to run into issues with accounts, static IP addresses, reverse DNS and the like.
On the other hand, if you're just using this to relay your users' mail over to Gmail then it's not such a big deal. You will, however, need to get under the hood to configure gmail's TLS authentication, since the GUI doesn't provide this functionality - it can be done, but it's not a one-click option.

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I have two servers that are both running mail. I'd like to be able to have them back each other up. If an email comes into server 1 and server 2 (where account is) is not available, I'd like Server 1 to hold that mail until Server 2 comes back on line.
Previously, in OSX Server, in Workgroup Manager, you could specify a forwarding address for a user and this worked great. In Lion Server, there is no such provision.
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"Previously, in OSX Server, in Workgroup Manager, you could specify a forwarding address for a user and this worked great. In Lion Server, there is no such provision."
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http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5032
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Hi,
I've setup Lion Server with a Mail Relay for outgoing emails and currently paying for x amount of emails per day.
Does Lion Server send all outgoing emails through the relay, or is it smart enough to know that internal emails (on the same subdomain) or emails generated by web apps on the server itself do not go through the relay because it can deliever it directly into the mailbox that resides on itself?
We generate a lot of emails internally, but only a handful to external addresses.
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The mail server first checks the domain of any recipient. If it's a local domain (i.e. one that the server handles) then it just passes that message to the user's mailbox.
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Upgraded a test server from snow leopard to lion and have problems with all incoming mail being rejected by the server.
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I've searched for hours and see that there are a couple of explanations. With initial installation I used a self-signed SSL certificate and then removed it according to this discussion. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3339935?start=0&tstart=0
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Last install I zeroed out drive and reinstalled and still after install it showed certificates for all mail services.
Can't figure out where it could be finding settings to reinstall certificates after they have been completely deleted.
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You don't want to do that. In my opinion, smtp should only be accessible via an encrypted connections, ie. TLS. It can represent a security risk and is against best practice.
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All my collaboration data is being stored on the RAID array on the XServe. The XServe has a SSHDD that was running the boot partition, but I disabled that and moved the boot partition to the array because of the "Phantom Disk" problem you get when the SSHDD boots up faster than the RAID array (had I only known when I bought the XServe - great concept - TERRIBLE implementation).
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Probably the simplest approach is the one I just detailed here https://discussions.apple.com/message/16207870#16207870
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