Mail marks my messages as Junk

Hi,
When I send a message to myself it is regularly marked as Junk. This can happen when the message is sent to a group list in which I am also a member. Although I unmark them always with "No junk", however this does not seem to solve it. And I have an entry for myself in the address book.
Well, you may ask why I need to keep two copies (one in the Sent folder and one in Inbox) but this is really frustrating to have your own messages in the Junk folder.
Is this a feature or a bug in Mail.app?
Cheers,
IV

Isn't anyone out there who can answer this problem, which is something I have had for the past six months?
I thought it would be fixed when I moved from using 10.4.11 and a Powerbook as my primary computer to a G5 iMac desktop with Leopard. But no such luck - mail I send to myself ALWAYS goes into the junk mail folder. It's not like I'm frequently cc'ing myself since I keep a copy of every message I've sent... but is truly frustrating, and it seems like a simple bug.
Any tips? MobileMe team?

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Here is what I did based on these exact instructions under Manage junk email in Apple iCloud support:
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2. drag the message to the junk folder in the sidebar.
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Date/Time: 2007-03-02 10:07:41 +0100
OS Version: 10.3.9 (Build 7W98)
Report Version: 2
Command: Mail
Path: /Applications/Mail.app/Contents/MacOS/Mail
Version: 1.3.11 (622)
PID: 376
Thread: 3
Exception: EXCBADACCESS (0x0001)
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if you create a new user account in system preferenes, users and groups and try mail through there, does it still happen?
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I've been noticing strange behavior by my junk mail system lately. First it was junking almost everything that came in without telling me.
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1. Go to Preferences > Junk Mail and disable junk mail filtering.
2. Quit Mail, then open it again.
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4. Reset the junk filter database (Preferences > Junk Mail > Reset).

Why does Mail mark all my outgoing messages as "junk?"

I recently upgraded from OS 10.4.4 to 10.5.5 on both my iMac and PowerBook & now Mail marks all my outgoing messages as "Junk."
I reset my junk mail preferences--and manually marked all my outgoing messages as "Not Junk Mail"--but nothing changed.
Is anyone else having the same problem?
Can anyone offer a solution?
Does anyone else think it's strange that this is even possible? Shouldn't administrators' messages always be marked "Not Junk Mail" by default?
Help!!!
iMac Mac OS X (10.4.5)

I recently upgraded from OS 10.4.4 to 10.5.5
Mac OS X 10.5.5? Wow! I thought it would be 1 year or so until Mac OS X 10.5 ships and you've already installed its .5 revision! What kind of Developer Program are you a member of?
Sorry, couldn't resist!
Now, seriously, you're certainly not alone. I've seen quite a few threads about this very same issue here. Just search for "junk" and "sent" in this forum:
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