MAIL-more .emlx files in Library than messages in Mail.app

I have seen that the number of messages .emlx in several Folders and subfolders of my Library/Mail/V2/..... is much more than the actual number of Mails to be seen in the different Folders of Mail.app. I keep only a limited number of Mails (last few weeks) so it is easy to see the difference; many .emlx go back to 2011.
My Mail in both my iMac and MacBookPro are the result of several migrations from 2005 from 3 MBP and 2 iMac, and they all sync with iCloud. During the time I changed one of the mail accounts from POP to IMAP. Until about 2010 I had a POP account and I used to copy tha Mail folder from one Mac to another to keep trace of the sent mail which was not possible to sync due to POP account. I have basically 2 accounts one iCloud and one IMAP.
I have no problem at all on my Macs and my iPhone which Mail but I whould like to know if this left stuff could be cleaned in some way.
The folder structure is complex.
Thanks for any suggestion.

Quit Mail.
Back up all data. That means you know you can restore the Mail database, no matter what happens.
Triple-click the text on the line below to select it:
~/Library/Mail/V2/MailData/Envelope Index
Copy the selected text to the Clipboard (command-C). In the Finder, select
Go ▹ Go to Folder
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Test. If Mail now works as expected, you can delete the file you moved to the Desktop. If you get a warning that the file is in use when you try to empty the Trash, log out and log back in.

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