Mail "Organize by Conversation" has blank messages

When I click the "Organize by Conversation" in "View", all old emails are nicely organized by thread, and if I click on the 'top' part of the thread (with the triangle) I can see all of the emails, or I can click on an individual email in the thread. If I get a new email in the thread, I can still see it in the top part, but if I click on the individual email, it shows up as just a blank grey window (the color of the background in the mail view). Typically, when this happens, the "Unread" flag stays on, even though the mail has been read.
There are two ways (that I know of) to fix this once it happens: I can uncheck/check "Organize by Conversation" or I can destroy and recreate the message viewer window (Command-W/Command-0). When the message viewer window is recreated this way, the "unread" flag is correctly cleared.
This most often happens with my mail account connected to an Exchange server.
Has anyone else seen this behavior, which seems to me to be a bug.

Hmm, yes, I have exactly the same issue. Apple mail upgraded my IMAP account to an IMAP Exchange account, and now I have messages that stay unread until I unorganize/organize by conversation. Other devices that use IMAP do know that the message has been read...
Any solutions anybody?

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If I understand correctly, I am having the opposite problem:
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