Mail Window Position Resets on Launch (argh)

this has been happening for years for me and i've never been able to find an answer. i was hoping that upgrading to leopard would fix the issue, but it hasn't...
whenever i "quit" mail, i have to make sure the message viewer window is front & focused; otherwise, when the next time i launch mail, the window resets to its default location & configuration; then i have to go back and set all my viewing preferences again (ie: window position & column views mostly).
does that make sense?

Did a clean install. That showed it who was boss!!! lol

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How can I make Mail window positions sticky?

One of the few good things about Windows is application windows always open in the same place every time. Why can't we have this with Apple Mail...it occurs with many other inherent Apple applications.
When I open a new message window in Apple Mail I don't want it to be in a different position every time I open it...I want it in the same spot each time (and want that position to be decided by me...I'm the one using the application). Forcing a window to open in the same position is basic programming, so this must be something intentionally done. Is there any way to fix it?
LarryMcJ
iMac 24 Mac OS X (10.4.8)

One of the few good things about Windows is
application windows always open in the same place
every time.
Pull the other one. (Or did I miss the smilies? ...
But back on track:
When I open a new message window in Apple Mail I
don't want it to be in a different position every
time I open it...I want it in the same spot each time
Hi
Mail is a document-based application (that is developer speak - never mind) that automatically stores the size and position of windows (at least it should).
BUT it differentiates between the type of windows you are using - example:
- Mine is configured to show no preview pane (just the sidebar with accounts and folders and the message list on the right)
- When I compose a message it opens in the exact same location where I had the last message composed and send (that is it stores size and position of the composition window)
- When I read a message it opens in the exact same location where I read the last message.
The two window positions can be different...
If this does not work for you then I suggest a look at the pref file for Apple Mail.
It lives in /User/[short user name]/Library/Preferences/ by the name com.apple.mail.plist.
You should only modify this file when Mail is NOT RUNNING. If I open several mail message windows and toss them around size and position get stored immediately in that file.
Unfortunately there is no way to store size and position in that file permanently - you could lock the file but this is not a good idea for Mail will complain about missing rights and stop working.
Cheers,
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Process:
Mail [763]
Path:
/Applications/Mail.app/Contents/MacOS/Mail
Identifier:
com.apple.mail
Version:
7.3 (1878.6)
Build Info:
Mail-1878006000000000~1
Code Type:
X86-64 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [264]
Responsible:
Mail [763]
User ID:
501
Date/Time:
2014-10-20 15:23:32.902 -0800
OS Version:
Mac OS X 10.9.5 (13F34)
Report Version: 11
Anonymous UUID: 1058C7CE-141A-982C-2F1D-4F0EB47F37A1
Crashed Thread: 10 Dispatch queue: NSOperationQueue Serial Queue
Exception Type: EXC_CRASH (SIGABRT)
Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000
Application Specific Information:
*** Terminating app due to uncaught exception 'NSInvalidArgumentException', reason: '-[NSKeyPathExpression objectForKey:]: unrecognized selector sent to instance 0x60000045ff20'
abort() called
terminating with uncaught exception of type NSException

Try a restart.
Do a backup, using either Time Machine or a cloning program, to ensure files/data can be recovered. Two backups are better than one.
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Try booting into the Safe Mode using your normal account. Disconnect all peripherals except those needed for the test. Shut down the computer and then power it back up after waiting 10 seconds. Immediately after hearing the startup chime, hold down the shift key and continue to hold it until the gray Apple icon and a progress bar appear and again when you log in. The boot up is significantly slower than normal. This will reset some caches, forces a directory check, and disables all startup and login items, among other things. When you reboot normally, the initial reboot may be slower than normal. If the system operates normally, there may be 3rd party applications which are causing a problem. Try deleting/disabling the third party applications after a restart by using the application un-installer. For each disable/delete, you will need to restart if you don’t do them all at once.
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Perhaps something is corrupt that is causing bad behavior for some users and so my comments are unhelpful, but here's some more data to add to this discussion: My Mail.app behaves as George Coghill described above, subsequent message windows open where the previous window was open.
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