Mail won't download certain messages

Hi all
I'm having a problem retrieving mail that I send from my iBook G4 (using Mail 3.5) to my iMac, i.e., I'm sending messages to myself. The messages make it to the gmail server (I can see them there) but Mail (also 3.5) on the iMac will not download them. It retrieves all other messages, either before or after, but not the ones I sent to myself from the iBook. It's like Mail doesn't see them. Anybody ever hear of this?

Hello, and welcome to the Discussions.
I am in the process of testing for another poster in the topic at the link below:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1769402&tstart=0
The tests have not yet pointed to any problem, so still looking.
Are you accessing your Gmail account as POP or IMAP?
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