Maintain custom page size with bleed

I use CS4 and when working in Illustrator ( and later taking into a book in InDesign) how do I maintain custom page size with bleed in Illustrator when saving as PDF .
I have been told my files are not print ready and have no bleed even though I set a bleed and accurate (custom)page size initially. It seems I lose these when I save as a PDF for Printers to use.

Sometimes and I will check the way I do that, though usually I move from
from AI , save as print quality PDF and still seem to lose the bleed. Is
there a setting I should be using for the PDF?

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