Maintaining Batch number & Serial number in production process

Hi!
we have a specific scenario like below:
our client will purchase Steel RODS with size 32 Feet and perform different operations, while performing some operations, the quanity get increased , for example 2 quantity of steel rods he is using in production , after 2nd operation it will become 4 quanity and this 4 quantity is input for 3rd operation, like this after final operation, it will become 20 quantity of finished products ( operations are like straightening, cutting, honing etc., ).
First of all how to create production orders ( whether we can treat this as discrete or repetitive manufacturing)?
second , client wants to track each rod used in the production which are breaking into different parts using batch number and serial number ( for example in ABC 32 Feet rod is used and cut into ABC -01 4 feet, ABC-02 6 feet like this).
Please suggest..
regs,
ramesh

Hi Ramesh,
This is a lot to deal with, many questions arising. Like what is the best UOM for the initial and in process RODS? EA or Meters, or maybe KGs? How are they measured?
Then if you need to track RODS in process using batches, then it means that you have to define more than one level of production; batches can only be used in the context of stock.

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Thank you for your respone, but, doing more researching, let me explain you with more detail:
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