Major flaws of Windows Phone 8

Leuven, UTC+1, Nokia Lumia 920, Amber + GDR3.
I have been a consumer and professional iPhone user for many years and still do with a 4S containing about 200 apps. However in April 2013 I decided to try an alternative OS and bought the Nokia Lumia 920 (GDR 3 in the meantime) which I now have been using for about 8 months together with my iPhone. Thus I can compare both builts and OS's.
I should like to summarize my conclusions about the OS and the Lumia as follows after using the phone quite intensively and installing more than 150 apps:
The design is one of the best and most original I have seen.
The hardware is extremely shock resistant (it fell one day from 3m high on cobble stones!) and allows wireless charging, unlike the competition.
Nokia does a great job in offering own apps with regular updates however some major apps are still missing : such as Flipboard and others. Also apps on WP8 are missing a lot of features of same apps on IOS. Trust this will be a matter of time..
The display is a delight to work with, definitely white on black with gloves.
WP8 overall and live tiles are a refreshing element compared to IOS and Android.( definetely when you pin Google contacts on your home screen!)
However although I love the device and might even buy an upgrade to Lumia 1020 at a later stage, since I love the above par camera and related apps, I am getting seriously frustrated by a lot of unacceptable flaws in the present state of the OS which I feel are completely unacceptable and a shame for Microsoft.
Processor speed is below par or the OS is not optimizing it and as a result starting up apps and browsing photo's takes to long compared to GS4 and iPhone 4/5S. Resuming, loading.....
Downloading of mail attachments takes to long and one can not see the progress !
One has to repeat clicking for downloading pictures in mails.
No sound confirming sending of mails !
The built-in Calendar app is below par and has a major flaw since the change to Caldav : when adding attendees to an appointment the calendar does not sync anymore with the Google calendar which is still way better than the outlook.com calendar who is missing many features which I am using in Google. (colors, more details, locations, etc..) No solution found yet even after trying 4 alternative Calendar apps !
Another problem which I solved by roaming the internet is the fact that when using automatic date+time setting the appointments in the Google calendar showed up one hour earlier due to a bug in the Caldav procedure of Microsoft which ignores the DST. I solved it by using West Central African UTC +1 timezone which does not use DST !!
It is impossible to add photos to the outlook persons tab in outook.com which forces me to continue to use the Google contacts syncing.
No notification or control center..
Obviously professional users won't have to suffer a big part of these bugs since using Exchange servers, Outlook and Office 365, but the millions of consumers in the street will suffer the same frustrations, definitely if they find out that their new Outlook account is not on par with Gmail and IOS.
Steve, do me a favor before you leave, solve these problems if you want WP8 to conquer the world of smartphones.
Cheers

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This is for Verizon Customer Service: Is there an estimated date for the 8.1 Denim update for Windows Phones?

Will Cyan be rolled out for the Icon, or should we expect to wait until Denim is supposed to be rolled out around October
<< Moderation discussion removed to comply with Verizon Wireless Terms of Service >> This is a very specific question and Verizon Customer Service can't answer it if they don't have a chance to read the question.
I spoke with Microsoft Customer service, and the agent specifically said MS already pushed Cyan to Verizon, and he, as a WP owner on Verizon, was also frustrated that the updates haven't been rolled out by VZW.
So bottom line question: Skipping Cyan? If so, what is the Denim date?
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Unfortunately the answer is unknown. The majority of the Windows phone threads here are about this exact subject, and that says a lot about Verizon and their ability to communicate on a basic level. You might get your update, you may not. Verizon is in control and doesn't really care.

Why I left Windows Phone

So yesterday I got my Samsung Galaxy S3. It is a great phone, but I felt kind of bummed out because the device I replaced was my HTC Trophy, a Windows phone. This ended my 1 year plus use of the Windows Phone OS and sent me back to Android once again. Why? There were a few reasons for this, I just wanted to name a few.
1. Hardware - Anyone who jumped in on Windows Phone's only offering to Verizon customers at the time knew that the hardware was below par of most Android devices offered at the time. Lack of SD card and display made it a mediocre choice, but the new OS was intriguing enough to draw me in. I had an Xperia Play (another disappointing phone Sony) and decided to trade it for my Trophy. Though the screen and camera were not on par with Sony's offering, I really wanted to give it a try. Being a Zune HD user made the transition pretty easy & the interface was beautiful. Again, hardware was lacking, but driven by an innovating OS. New hardware specs are pretty much on par with recent Android devices, but that cannot make up for....
2. Software - I found my Trophy had a few hiccups once in a while. Nothing too bad, but apps would sometimes force close or not even open at all. There was a single upgrade that could not be done OTA, but had to be hooked up to Zune to download and install. This was not too much of a issue at first, but why no OTA over at least WiFi? It would come to be a non issue since the Trophy was the ******* child of Verizon, put in a room somewhere; forgotten about and left to just sit there with no updates whatsoever. After a while, I got frustrated and turned to XDA for custom builds. One was a 7.8 build which made the OS slightly more appealing, but still had OS issues with apps. Speaking of.....
3. Apps & Marketplace - This was the major flaw with WP. No apps. Sure there were a few offerings, but nothing compared to iOS or Android. I know WP is newer to the market and had claimed a huge increase in apps, but from what I could see, nothing worth bragging about. One example was Draw Something. This game had come and gone, gone even further, and then was given life on WP, well sort of given life. It was buggy, crashed constantly, and finding someone to play with was hardly worth the effort. Other games like Mini Squadron and Final Fantasy ran perfect and provided a lot of entertainment. Oh, Physibricks was also a great one! Other apps were nothing more than web page conversions. The entire time I used my phone I only had good experiences with the Engadget app (when using 3G, WiFi was slower for some reason) and the Zune software, which was the best integrated music software ever imo. Songs loaded fast and the huge marketplace made it easy to get any song you wanted. This is the one feature I really loved about WP. I could be somewhere, hear a song, hit the search button and select music. Not only would it find the song, it would take me to the market to download it though my ZunePass. Spotify, Pandora, IHeartRadio, none of these services could hold a match to Zune Pass on WP. This is the only thing I will miss on Android, well, until Xbox music has it App up and running, and if it is as nice as its WP counterpart.
Microsoft, you want to sell devices, then invest in the developers like you did with Xbox. You got Nokia which was an awesome start, but you knew the market you were getting into and knew what your competitors had out there. You should have gone in stronger than this. Offer developers 100% of their profits, 1 year of Xbox music free with new device, $0.99 app submit fee, free development software, big incentives for developers to bring apps over from other OS's, $2.99 for Angry Birds?, bring more of your Xbox live titles to mobile, and tap your home developers (XDA!) to see what you could do to bring customers. Start off big and work with handset developers and get their involvement. Its not too late to get things fixed, but to get me to come back to Windows phone and some others to leave iOS and Android, you need to get better fast or go the route of Kin.

You are right, to each their own.
I agree, the UI and the OS are good, but lacking in what is offered by the other two major OS's. Each one has their good and bad, but some more than others. You are right about low end options. I do like the 8X a lot, but after using other hardware besides HTC, I decided to give Samsung a try. The new WP8 hardware has started to look a lot more appealing, even in more ways than the normal Android offerings, but performance is still on par with what handset creators have been pushing on Android 6 months earlier.Dual Core processor, good GPU, MicroSD card slot, 4G, HD display. These are stats you could find in most Android devices a year ago. Now, does Windows phone need to surpass these stats? Not really, but its nice to have a somewhat future proof device that won't be obsolete 3-6 months after you get it with no chances of updating (WP7 users feel me on this). Microsoft set a standard HW requirement for WP7 and guess what, hardware manufactures stuck with it. Why? Because MS didn't allow a lot of the features that other phones had, weak strategy. Don't release behind the curve software if its not on par with your competition because you get behind the curve hardware to run it.
Weak apps is a definite description I still stand by. MS made a huge deal about app requirements and efforts to get developers to create apps that fit well into the WP7 environment. I saw very little of this if any. Even top name apps are buggy at best (ESPN, CNN, LinkedIn). I've used these apps on iOS and Android and the quality far exceeds those on WP. I don't need a lot of apps, just ones that are useful and functional for my everyday personal and professional use. If I can't depend of developers of major apps to provide high quality apps for a high quality OS, then what is the use? I can tell you there were many productive apps on my Android phones that I could not find on WP. Now, this could be because of WP7/8 app compatibility, but could not be sure.
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Major flaw in Identity Firewall?

Hi!
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Hello,
For devices that are not joined to the AD domain, the IDFW feature supports learning username to IP mappings via VPN or cut-through proxy authentication. The configuration guide describes this type of deployment:
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Thinking about selling Iphone 5 for new WIndows Phone

So I am a new Iphone 5 user. Went from a Motorola Droid to an Apple product. I must say I like the Iphone 5, but I like the new windows phone. I have even thought about selling my Iphone 5 to get the Windows phone. ANyone have any thoughts about the windows phones compared the the Iphone 5?

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Hey Folks, I've had this problem for a long time (many many months) and have been too lazy to post assuming that this is a issue affecting loads of others and that it would just get sorted but I've come to the point where I really need to find out what is happening. I absolutely love Spotify and use it reuglarly on my ipad and windows phone however my love affair with Spotify on my phone ispractically over. The app has become really unreliable and more often than not...unusable. Often it takes forever to load and I just see the scrolling (loading) green dots for ages before I give up. Ages being 5-10 minutes before I lose interest. Assuming I do get in, I then go to my playlists and the whole thing happens again, more and more scrolling which sometimes results in the playlists being revealed or again i just simply give up. If I do get to a playlist, I will select it....cue more scrolling whilst it tries to load the track lists which invariably never happens. Art work, none existent and if I do manage to play one track, the rest of the tracks on the album fail to get listed. If I even dare to go back to look at the playlists again, the whole thing starts over. It can literally take me twenty minutes to get round to playing one track! You'd think that this might be the sort of behaviour you'd get in a area of bad signal but this happens when i'm at home using my 50mb wifi and despite being connected to my wifi, which is reliable on all my other systems, I often get the message saying that Spotify is offline or can't connect to the network. I assume that this isn't a problem with my phone and is affecting others out there but it's become intolerable and since i pay my monthly premium Spotify subscription I expect a product that works. I understand that things get glitchy but this has been happening for the best part of the year and I really should now cancel my payments. If the problem gets fixed then I'd gladly sign up again and pay the fee but at the mo I'm not sure what I'm paying for. I never have this problem with the app on my ipad so clearly this is a windows phone problem. I have tried deleting the app and resintalling but nothing seems to work. Could you guys advise anything else I can try or at least let me know that you're aware of the problem and are trying to fix it and let us know when an update will be sent out. I know this didn't happen when I first used Spotify over a year or two ago. Thanks :-)

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Olá. Bom dia! Me chamo Lucas, gostaria de saber se há um projeto de fazer o firefox para Windows Phone?

Adoro o Firefox e o trabalho desenvolvido por vocês. Gostaria muito de ter esse browser de altíssima qualidade no meu Windows Phone.
Parabéns pelo trabalho desenvolvido, e por interagir com os usuários. Estarei sempre colaborando para ajudar a melhorar sempre o Firefox.

Infelizmente o projeto está parado por tempo indeterminado!
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I afraid the printer is not compatible with Windows Phone.
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