Major print module issue in LR3

I've hit a wall in trying to figure out an extremely frustrating issue with the print module in Lightroom 3: every time I attempt to print a contact sheet to PDF, the entire system locks up immediately upon "rendering images," system usage seems at 100% across the board, and I have to forcibly shut down the application via the task manager. After Lightroom has finally closed, I see an error dump txt on my desktop from Adobe Distiller which reads as follows:
%%[ ProductName: Distiller ]%%
%%[ Error: syntaxerror; OffendingCommand: --nostringval-- ]%%
Stack:
/build_pattern
%%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%%
%%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %%
I don't know if this Distiller error is in fact initiating the crash or if it's just the result of having forcibly shut down LR-- thus, I guess question #1 is whether this is an Acrobat or LR issue. I have uninstalled/reinstalled Lightroom at least three times; deleted and recreated the catalog; and updated to the latest version 3.2, and the error persists. I've also tried the print procedure with different batches/folders of images residing both on my local and external drives with the same behavior.
My system info is as follows: ThinkStation E20 w/ X3450 Xeon and 4GB RAM, nVidia FX580 video card, running 64-bit Windows7 and 64-bit LR 3.2; also running latest updated version of Acrobat Pro, i.e .9.3.4.
Only other thing I can think of that I haven't already tried is to uninstall and reinstall Acrobat Pro, which I've kept from the CS3 suite, although I'd rather avoid doing so if possible. I'll also add that this is a brand new system with fresh installs of *all* software including the CS5 suite.
Printing contact sheets is one of my most common tasks in LR, so any help is *greatly* appreciated.

well, interesting development here-- I have to humbly rescind my particular criticism of LR3 with respect to this issue, as much to my surprise after downgrading to 2.7, I experienced the exact same problem-- i.e. upon printing a contact sheet, the program locks up at "rendering images" and brings the whole system to a halt.
in light of this development, it occurred to me to uninstall (64-bit) 2.7, and reinstall 32-bit LR3-- and lo and behold the print issue seems to be no more. so now the question is why would this be? an issue between LR3 64-bit and the OS (Windows 7 64) ? or perhaps a conflict between LR and Acrobat? maybe a driver conflict?
any ideas/insights are welcome.

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Hi,
for me there are three issues that are missing / should be improved with the print module:
The sharpening quality and setting options are still behind i.e. Qimage. Having in mind what Qimage is costing, it should be fairly ease for Adobe to reach the better Qimage output sharpening quality.
Soft proofing is still missing and should be added in the next major release at the latest.
There should be something like a loop view for the print layout screen. When using large format printer formats the rulers become extremely small that an exact positioning is almost impossible.
Looking forward to these, in the given priority.
Thomas

G_Lat wrote:
The print resolution is no longer displayed making it difficult to decide if I need to modify the resolution prior to printing.
Why would you modify the resolution? One of the huge advantages of Lightroom is that you don't have to do things like this anymore. You simply choose the output resolution in the Print Job panel and Lightroom takes care of the rest. How (and why) exactly are modifying resolution?
As to your second question, I am getting a print preview when I turn it on in the printer driver. Although I would never use it, it is working here.
It might help to submit some system info and some printer info:

Bug in Print Module, LR3.6, custom package

Hi everybody,
After two days of unequal fight with Print Module bug I hope I finally pinned it down.
Hope it saves someone time
I have my photos usually cropped in DSLR format (2:3)
Printing I use often two popular formats 13x18cm and 15x21cm that are close to 5:7 (first one is 5x7in)
Initially I was using virtual copies and had them cropped to 5:7 format.
However this makes a little mess in my workflow and it's time consuming.
What I found was Custom Package in Print Module.
Having cell with target size I drag desired photo into the cell and using cmd-key drag this foto to have proper look as the width target format is smaller. So far so good, but ...
From time to time printed photo looked totally different from what I saw on-screen.
First of all there are couple threads about that problem. I visited them but they remain unanswered
http://forums.adobe.com/message/3344521
http://forums.adobe.com/message/3278739
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/697107
http://forums.adobe.com/message/3885690
There are visual samples there of what happens.
Photos in JPG file that was created from LR look differently than in LR. Photos in file are bigger or/and wrong positioned within the cell
What I managed to find is:
Everything goes fine until photo is rotated by 'Rotate to Fit' function. It happens in my case only with photos that have the same orientation that template.
Example:
Template is set on A4 borderless format set to portait (Page Setup... button).
Two cells 14,85cm height x 21cm width (A5 format). First one over second and both in landcape position.
When I drag photo cropped in Landscape orientation such a photo is rendered properly.
When I drag photo cropped in Portrait orientation it's atutomatically rotated 90 degrees (couterclockwise) by "Rotate to Fit option" and that is when **** happens.
Final print (to file or printer) shows that user dragging is omitted in render. What's more if "Photo border" is set to on, photo in this cell is not reduced. Instead of this (as far as I can see) photo border just crop some part of picture.
If I switch orientation of the A4 page from portrait to lansdcape, magically photos that are cropped in portrait orientation start to render good (they are not rotated now) while those in landscape start to render wrong.
This looks 99% as software bug.
I'm using LR3.6 on mac osx 10.6.8
I'd like someone to follow it and to check if the same happens on different Mac or Windows.
Cheers
Robert

Confirmed in LR 5.3, OS X 10.9.1.
Screen display is fine, user repositioning is ignored when printing if page is in landscape mode and the image is rotated 90° (Rotate to Fit on). A4, Epson printer. Bug also appears in PDFs generated via the "Printer…" button. I didn't check JPEG export.

LR3 Print Module: printing to profile - unable to change Color Matching

Hi
I use LR3 in 32 bit mode (there is no 64bit driver for HP DesignJet 130n).
I always print to profiles. In LR2 I had to make sure that in the PrintSettings the option Color Matching was set to "Vendor Machine", because although I saved this setting, LR never remembered.
Now with LR3 the option is again set to"Color Sync" but this time it cannot be changed.
Any suggestion?
Thanks
Bruno

Bob,
My problem is exactly what you say: you must find the appropriate place in the printer interface where you can disable all color management performed by the printer driver.
In OS X (10.5.) I know only of two places where I can handle Color Management: "Print Settings" and "Profile" in the LR3 Print Module.
By default LR3 sets the Print Settings "Color Matching" to "Vendor Machine" if I choose "Managed by the Printer" for the Profile.
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Where/what is "the appropriate place in the printer interface where you can disable all color management performed by the printer driver" ?

Color management: Adobe RGB 1998 issues in print module

When printing to a JPEG file from the Print Module, I've noticed that the "Adobe RGB" profile differs substantially from the "Adobe RGB (1998)" profile supplied with Windows.
When viewed with Photoshop, the "Adobe RGB" images are much more saturated than the image previews from the Lightroom window. Photoshop displays the same "Adobe RGB (1998)" profile for both files.
I have tried to reinstall Lightroom, but this has not solved the problem.
It seems that when selecting "Adobe RGB", Lightroom is in fact converting the image to sRGB, but embeds the "Adobe RGB (1998)" profile.
ICC profile selection: http://julianchoquette.com/fichiers/forum/lightroom-color-a.png
This will output files that look like the previews in Lightroom: http://julianchoquette.com/fichiers/forum/lightroom-color-b.png
Profile selection pop-up: http://julianchoquette.com/fichiers/forum/lightroom-color-c.png

Yeah that is completely different. My guess is that this is the bug I mentioned before. It should not happen but clearly does. It works normally on my system (I just tried again).
>Note that both dialogs do not display exactly the same name for the Lightroom provided Adobe RGB profile. http://julianchoquette.com/fichiers/forum/lightroom-export-dialog.png
That's normal and doesn't mean anything. On my computer it actually says "AdobeRGB" without the (1998) that yours shows but I believe that's simply a difference between the Mac and PC version. You can try whether it does the same thing if you select prophoto. But somebody with Vista x64 and LR 2.3 should try the same thing to see if this is a bug specific to the PC version of LR.

Issue with Color Management and Print Module

The is a repost per request from a comment on Julieanne Kost's blog...
Having sticky output settings can be useful but now that LR has a color managed workflow, it introduces some problems. For example, if a Proof Copy is created and edited to a particular profile, then that copy is taken into the Print Module, if the output profile that has “stuck” from the previous job does not match you have a problem. It would be nice if the behavior for proof copies would be to automatically match the editing profile or at least warn of a mismatch. And while it is nice to be able to create a Saved Print with all the output parameters, it would be helpful to be able to create saved sets of “Print Job” settings assuming that they will be consistent for a particular printer/ink/paper combination (and whatever “Print Adjustment” you have found to your liking) then easily applied to any image being prepared for output. Perhaps a “save setting” selection under the “Print to:” menu.

So what you propose is the templates are proof copy sensitive and if they are setup for profile A but the proof copy describes profile B, then everything but the template defined profile is honored? I could get behind that idea (but what if one selects multiple VC’s with differing profiles and goes into Print?).
That's pretty much it. It does get complicated quickly as you look at multiple VCs or (and I think we need to start making the distinction between proof copies and ordinary virtual copies) if you bring a mixture of PCs and VCs into the print module. I would suggest that the default behavior be to set output profile of the PC as defined in the PC and retain the "sticky" behavior for ordinary VCs.
I also think that having the ability to save a "Print Copy" may change what we need out of the templates and perhaps their overall function should be re-evaluated.
The VC name should show you the profile used for soft proofing if you have the overlay on. That helps too. My concern are those who work with these VC’s and the text overlay is off.
I'm not getting that behavior. The only place the copy name shows up in the print module is in the filmstrip header. Maybe I have a preference set wrong somewhere... Still, I'd rather the software take care of making the match rather than having to double check to make sure I haven't inadvertently changed the profile somehow (i.e. clicking on a template just to see how it would look on another size paper).

Print Module templates layouts do not update on the fly

Print layouts do not update on the fly when attempting to choose between various Print Module>Template Browser> Lightroom or User templates. This occurs in all three Layout Styles. The very first layout chosen in Single Image/Contact Sheet, Picture Package, or Custom Package is the permanent 'default' and cannot be changed. The Preview will show as expected however any image stays stuck in the very first layout I chose after installing LR4 beta.
For example, I first chose Template Browser>Lightroom Templates>Maximum Size, and Layout Style>Single Image/Contact Sheet. Clicking through any other Templates (Lightroom or User defined) will alter the preview but not the layout display in the Print window. Same problem in either of the other Layout styles. I have been trying for days to rectify this, but it seems somehow more difficult than LR3. and not what I expect.
As a comparison, using the same steps in LR3 works perfectly as all print template/layouts can be changed on the fly as expected. I have no problems generating different layouts in LR3 and have been using LR print module since version 1 without this issue.
Is this a bug or are there any extra steps or workarounds I have not discovered? Any other testers seen this?

Update with more info. What am I doing wrong, if anything?
Print layouts do not update on the fly when attempting to choose between various Print Module>Template Browser> Lightroom or User templates. This is not a hang since the layouts do not change after the initial choice no matter how much time elapsed.
iMac OS 10.6.8. 8GB RAM.Processor Intel Core 2 Duo. NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GS.
The steps as follows:
1) Lightroom 3.6 & LR4Beta exist side by side.
2) LR4 Beta> Print Module;
3) From filmstrip choose image;
4) Template Browser> Lightroom4Beta Templates>Maximum Size;
5) Preview displays as expected;
6) Layout Styles>Single Image/Contact Sheets
7) Template Browser> Lightroom4Beta Templates>click through any other templates (Lightroom or User defined);
8) Image layout in main window does not update;
9) Previews update;
10) Layout Style>Picture Package;
11) Template Browser>Maximum size is then automatically shown, however the template in the main window is actually (1) 7x5, (2) 2.5x3.5;
12) Any further attempts to change the layouts regardless of Style Layout choices are not successful.
13) Close LR4Beta>re-open LR4Beta;
14) Repeat test;
15) Print Module layouts do not update on the fly as expected;
16) Close LR4Beta and all applications;
17) Reboot iMac.
18) Open LR4Beta only;
19) LR4Beta>Print Module>Template Browser >Lightroom Templates>Maximum Size;
20) Image displays in main layout window with Template and Preview display as expected;
21) Choose different image>Template Browser>Lightroom Templates>Maximum Size;
22) Click through templates, layouts DO NOT update in main window although previews do automatically update.
23) CONCLUSION - In Lightroom 4 Beta>Print Module>Template Browser, image layouts do not change after initial choice as expected.
I posted this on Photoshop.com as a problem.

How to add text in print module in LR4?

want to add text twice in print module, seems only option is identity plate and it cant be duplicated, any suggestions?

yea i hear ya, but like i made a custom photo strip and another one right next to it so there are two vertical photo strips that after being printed will be cut down the middle. i want to have text (or identity tag) at the bottom of each photo strip (again, will be printing two on one page). Best thing i have come up with so far is dinking around with text in word (duplicate text so it would show up twice) but its kinda an issue with spacing and everything. Sucks you cant just add a box anywhere on there and input what you want (unless there is a way and just cant figure it out). Again, in "custom package"

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I could see that being useful too. As it may not make the final release, and we wouldn't want the request to get lost in beta land, might I suggest adding it as a suggestion on the Feature Request forum http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family where it can easily be tracked? If you post the link to your request here, others can also vote on your request. If you search there, you may even find similar requests that you might like to add your vote to.

Print module- MS XPS Doc is only option?

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When I click Page Setup, Print Settings, or Print, I get the Print Setup dialog box with 'Microsoft XPS Document Writer' listed as my printer with no apparent other options (this is where he selects Adobe PDF as the 'printer'). In addition, where Matt was able to enter a custom paper size in this dialog box, that option- those fields- do not exist. I simply have a Paper Size drop down with all the standard paper sizes listed- no option for a custom size.
Any ideas on why this might be, what I can do do fix it, and/or another workaround that would let me export what I have arranged in the Print module as a JPEG?

You will need Adobe Acrobat (not just Acrobnat Reader) installed. Then you will have the PDF print driver.
- Morey

Print Module confusion - settings, templates, and migration to new system.

I'm a little confused by some aspects of the print module. First, I tried copying some of my print templates from Lr1.3 over to the print template folder in 2.3, and they didn't' seem to work right. The layout display in the upper left preview window did not match the layout of the main preview window, and many of the settings were not right, such as what printer was supposed to be used. Is there a problem with using 1.3 templates in 2.3?
Next, I can select a paper type in the printer driver AND in the Lr color management section. Do these each do different things?
Also, what does the Lr "Print Resolution" do -- i.e. how does it interact with the printer driver "quality" options, which sets the resolution? Does one setting override the other? If select the maximum quality (i.e. max resolution) in my printer driver settings, should I uncheck the Lr "Print Resolution" setting?
Finally, when I migrate from one system to another, am I supposed to manually copy over all my templates? I would have thought that these would be saved in the catalog, but apparently this is not the case.
Thanks for clarification on these issues,
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Print Module - Page Panel: Page options & Photo Info lost

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4. Cut Guides.
Victoria Bampton described also the features with a screenshot of LR3b2 in her "Missing FAQ-Rough Cut" (page 366):
4. cut guides did not exist, but instead Page options with tick boxes, then 5. Photo Info drop down box, then 6. Font Size.
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How do I cover the following use case: Create an invitation with photos and own free text about date/time/venue?
Please don't answer "export a jpg from Lightroom and then use MS Word or some other editor".
From the beta phase I got the impression that creating such a pdf should be possible directly from Lightroom.

How do I cover the following use case: Create an invitation with photos and own free text about date/time/venue?
Lightroom's text layout features might not be as powerful as you might thought. You're option are:
Use a custom Identity plate to add some static text or graphic anywhere on the page.
Use watermarking to add some static text or graphic anywhere on the photo.
Use Photo Info to add some metadata, such as IPTC location or capture time, somewhere around your photo.

Is there a serious flaw in LRs Print Module?

I have been having no end of difficulty getting a decent print from LR. The more I search for answers the more I find that others have the same issue. It seems to be related mostly to Canon and HP printers. Most Epson users indicate they are getting great prints.
Multiple combinations of settings have been suggested (all from very helpful folks, thks!) but all attempts have not produced anything remotely close to whats on the screen. PSE3 prints perfectly for me, and other comments indicate that CS2&3 and PSE4&5 also deliver superior results to LR.
It seems that there a serious problem with LRs Print Module whereby it cannot interpret and convert profiles properly? Has this been officially addressed by Adobe? If so, please direct to where I can find that information, please.
Dont misunderstand me, LR is a fantastic program and a very powerful RAW workflow tool. Even the Print Module has some really cool stuff, but not so cool when the colours dont come out close to the original.
Where does one go from here to find a solution to this problem?

Hi Dave
I posted this earlier in this thread about CS3 printing problems that Adobe has addressed and I just reviewed it again and noticed some common problems under the "Issues Fixed in this Release" as follows:
"Color matching is now correct on BPE printers (notably the Epson 3800) when Photoshop is set to handle color management."
"BPE Printers expect a Profile to be passed when Photoshop manages color. Photoshop now passes the Profile."
"Epson 2400 driver no longer does double color profiling when PS is handling the color management and we explicitly turn off Epson color management in the Print dialog."
"Color management will now produce identical results on Intel and PowerPC-based Macs."
"Correct Page Setup now comes up in the Print dialog when you change printers to print different documents."
"Page Setup would sometimes show the preferences for a previously selected printer."
"RGB to CMYK conversion with a specific ICC profile and Adobe(ACE) engine is fixed."
"Specific types of ICC profiles were being incorrectly converted. Converted images would appear close to black, if not entirely black."
These appear to be the same issues that are happening in LR that require a similar fix that CS3 required.
Here's the link again:
http://www.adobe.com/support/photoshop/ts/documents/kb402846/PhotoshopPrintingNotes.pdf

LR5 version 5.3 abends when selecting media type in the print module; on Mac OSX 10.9.1. Why?

LR5 version 5.3 abends when selecting media type in the print module; on Mac OSX 10.9.1. Why? The printer is an Epson 4900.

I contacted Epson and the following steps resolved the problem.
Please close all of your programs to Repair Permissions:
1. Go to your Mac Hard Drive > Applications > Utilities and open the Disk Utility.
2. Click on and highlight your main Mac Hard Drive in the list on the left.
3. Select Repair Disk Permissions and once this is finished, restart your computer.
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If you are still having issue, try printing from Apples Preview and see if it print fine. If so, the issue would be PS and/or LR and you would need to troubleshoot the program installation.
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I often use the Photo Info option in the Print Module to caption my proofs with File Number plus the date and time the print is made. This allows me to match up the print to the History state for the image, so I know which print version I'm looking at. I've always wanted to get Lightroom to automatically enter the date and time the print is made. It obviously knows this info, since it stamps the History state with date and time. Currently I have to modify my caption manually with Custom text each time I make a print. This is a major PITA. Has anyone figured out how to get Lightroom to do this?

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