Major problems I am having with the K8N neo platinum:(:(

Hiya all,
I bought this K8N motherboard two weeks ago and at first I seemed very happy with it, but when fulfilling the final steps in the installation of my PC(being installing of all my important games, voice over IP software, firewalls, security etc)I started noticing some very very disturbing things.
First of all, my onboard sound is totally unusable for online gaming, my microphone cannot be set up no matter what combinations of options I use. The sound is just messed up. When i and my friend enter our ventrilo server and he starts speaking he hears himself 10 times in an echo, and its not him thats causing this its me. When another friend joins and i leave all is just fine(hence i am the cause). Also to try and fix this problem i bought a soundblaster live 5.1. I can install it under windows XP but for the life of me I cannot get my microphone to lit up my ventrilo voicechat thus my voice is not recognized and not processed, so this then also does not work, 2 methods to get voice over IP working and none of them work??? I will award MSI the nobel price of irony for that.
Secondly, all punkbuster related online games have become totally unplayable. At first I got very annoying freezes every 2-3 minutes, it lasts a few secs and then i can play on for 2-3 more minutes until it happens again, and again and again....... Now I fixed that particular problem by downloading specially modified Call of Duty 3.9 ATI catalyst drivers but the fun doesn't stop there. Now when I play games I get strokes of extreme choppyness in an online game like Enemy Territory. When setting my fps to a steady 76fps and seeing it stay that way and knowing it can easily stay stable even at 100fps is what I find very very weird. So my comp runs very smooth, but lo and behold there is still choppy performance, other players struttling ahead as if all of them have major lag(while all sport pings of ~20-40).
When I then start shooting its even more difficult to get a good aim cuz they lag and one time they are here, the next they are in an entirely diff spot and my shooting certainly doesn't help to decrease the choppyness:) Its not allways this bad but every game I play has these bad spells, sometimes the entire game, sometimes only half the time depending on whats happening onscreen I guess.
Now with my Pentium 4 2.8Ghz and my exact same radeon I did not have any of these problems, its a slower comp but it still runs these online games 10x smoother??? I have noticed however that it is indeed mainly related to punkbuster or opengl related games. And as far as I can tell, only ATI suffers from it, since my friend who has exactly the same setup as me runs supersmooth with no lag whatsoever. All he has diff from me is his graphics card, which is nvidia???
Am I now forced to shell out another 300$ for an nvidia based card that matches the speed of my 9800 pro?? This whole buying of the MSI has grown into quite the ordeal.
Thirdly, I am also noticing some strange temps on my CPU, i have a zalman CPS7000A-alcu and it should cool better than stock, but after 4 reseats and applying of AS5(applied according to their instructions on site)it still gives me temps of 59°C at full load????? I find this really really high, and I do know i applied the paste very very good. I can tell cuz after I reseated it a few times each time you can clearly see how good it has spread towards all the edges. And its a fine thin layer, so no probs on my end. I am doing all this by the book and with greatest care.
As I am a clanbase player, and a very good one at that, I am seriously hampered in my gaming experience. While I used to get killed/deaths ratios of on average K:60-90+ /D:11-20 on my P4 for Enemy Territory I now have a very hard time even getting on K:50 D:32 each level. This is a serious dent in my budget as well since now for sanctioned events I will have to buy a new comp just to be able to play to my old standards:(:(:(
I have reached a point where I cannot do anything anymore, I have asked many questions already(ATI, Punkbuster, Nvidia, MSI), and all i get is standard set up mailing lists with what I could do. If this is customer support then plz crown me Sultan of Brunei, cuz I can do it like this too. Is this adressing a problem, eeerm I think mr Spock after looking at it logically would not even deem this worthy to an answer, since its that obvious.
So basically noone is willing to help, they are very willing to grab your money but when it comes to support all you get is a cheap script saying, when mail sent to [email protected] send "Standard mailing list A" back, when mail sent to [email protected] reply with "standard mailing list Ç", etc etc.
Sad very sad how they treat us poor dumb customers these days,
Regards,
A disgruntled MSI buyer
PS : I said above this problem is mainly related to ATI based cards but when you try to tell me i should try new drivers then plz don't go there cuz I tried everything from omega to iota and nothing works, the only thing that even stops the freezing is the specially modded drivers some dude fixed up. But it still leave me with crappy performance.

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Originally posted by Capcom
Hiya all,
I bought this K8N motherboard two weeks ago and at first I seemed very happy with it, but when fulfilling the final steps in the installation of my PC(being installing of all my important games, voice over IP software, firewalls, security etc)I started noticing some very very disturbing things.
First of all, my onboard sound is totally unusable for online gaming, my microphone cannot be set up no matter what combinations of options I use. The sound is just messed up. When i and my friend enter our ventrilo server and he starts speaking he hears himself 10 times in an echo, and its not him thats causing this its me. When another friend joins and i leave all is just fine(hence i am the cause). Also to try and fix this problem i bought a soundblaster live 5.1. I can install it under windows XP but for the life of me I cannot get my microphone to lit up my ventrilo voicechat thus my voice is not recognized and not processed, so this then also does not work, 2 methods to get voice over IP working and none of them work??? I will award MSI the nobel price of irony for that.
Secondly, all punkbuster related online games have become totally unplayable. At first I got very annoying freezes every 2-3 minutes, it lasts a few secs and then i can play on for 2-3 more minutes until it happens again, and again and again....... Now I fixed that particular problem by downloading specially modified Call of Duty 3.9 ATI catalyst drivers but the fun doesn't stop there. Now when I play games I get strokes of extreme choppyness in an online game like Enemy Territory. When setting my fps to a steady 76fps and seeing it stay that way and knowing it can easily stay stable even at 100fps is what I find very very weird. So my comp runs very smooth, but lo and behold there is still choppy performance, other players struttling ahead as if all of them have major lag(while all sport pings of ~20-40).
When I then start shooting its even more difficult to get a good aim cuz they lag and one time they are here, the next they are in an entirely diff spot and my shooting certainly doesn't help to decrease the choppyness:) Its not allways this bad but every game I play has these bad spells, sometimes the entire game, sometimes only half the time depending on whats happening onscreen I guess.
Now with my Pentium 4 2.8Ghz and my exact same radeon I did not have any of these problems, its a slower comp but it still runs these online games 10x smoother??? I have noticed however that it is indeed mainly related to punkbuster or opengl related games. And as far as I can tell, only ATI suffers from it, since my friend who has exactly the same setup as me runs supersmooth with no lag whatsoever. All he has diff from me is his graphics card, which is nvidia???
Am I now forced to shell out another 300$ for an nvidia based card that matches the speed of my 9800 pro?? This whole buying of the MSI has grown into quite the ordeal.
Thirdly, I am also noticing some strange temps on my CPU, i have a zalman CPS7000A-alcu and it should cool better than stock, but after 4 reseats and applying of AS5(applied according to their instructions on site)it still gives me temps of 59°C at full load????? I find this really really high, and I do know i applied the paste very very good. I can tell cuz after I reseated it a few times each time you can clearly see how good it has spread towards all the edges. And its a fine thin layer, so no probs on my end. I am doing all this by the book and with greatest care.
As I am a clanbase player, and a very good one at that, I am seriously hampered in my gaming experience. While I used to get killed/deaths ratios of on average K:60-90+ /D:11-20 on my P4 for Enemy Territory I now have a very hard time even getting on K:50 D:32 each level. This is a serious dent in my budget as well since now for sanctioned events I will have to buy a new comp just to be able to play to my old standards:(:(:(
I have reached a point where I cannot do anything anymore, I have asked many questions already(ATI, Punkbuster, Nvidia, MSI), and all i get is standard set up mailing lists with what I could do. If this is customer support then plz crown me Sultan of Brunei, cuz I can do it like this too. Is this adressing a problem, eeerm I think mr Spock after looking at it logically would not even deem this worthy to an answer, since its that obvious.
So basically noone is willing to help, they are very willing to grab your money but when it comes to support all you get is a cheap script saying, when mail sent to [email protected] send "Standard mailing list A" back, when mail sent to [email protected] reply with "standard mailing list Ç", etc etc.
Sad very sad how they treat us poor dumb customers these days,
Regards,
A disgruntled MSI buyer
If you would like to submit a list, numbered (1, 2, 3, 4) with problems and your complete configuration, I'd be happy (along with others) to go through and find the problems for you.
If you just want to post a rant with "MSI Sucks" and admit your a chump for doing a stupid thing like buying an MSI boar: Then just return it please. Save others the trouble and get your money back.
That way you are happy, and don't have such a high stress level.

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  • Problems With MSI K8N Neo Platinum

    Posting some probems I have face and wondering if you folks have experience similar problems. I bought 2 and bot hahve same problems (sold both of it). Another friend of mine have also same problems with the board.
    1. SATA 1/2 don't work properly. I have detection problems using SATA ports 1/2. The comp will not detect my IDE devices and hang at POST screen. Reboot/reset don't solve the problem. I have to turn off and on to get it to work. Problem is only sovled after switching to SATA 3/4.
    2. Network disconnection problem. The NIC will auto disconnect and reconnect back by itself, esp. when under overclocked conditions.
    3. Cannot overclock much using DIMM slot-1 esp. when mem is over 230MHz. Must change to slot 2/3. Even so, I do face BSOD stating an USB driver is the cause of the issue.
    4. Comp will sometimes unable to reboot at FSB between ~210-240MHz. 250Mz and above seems OK.
    Now, I am using Abit KV8 Pro 1.1 and it works fine though. No FSB reboot issues. I am using 1.1 with latest BIOS, thus not AGP/PCI lock issues. Hope MSI will fix those problems mentioned ASAP cause my Abit don't work with mobile A64s. :(

    Seriously, I have absolutely no idea. It may be a QC problem, it may be a design problem, its may be BIOS or others. The only thing I know that after I jump ship to Abit KV8 Pro 1.1, all these problems are gone. Only problem is that Abit don't support mobile A64s.
    BTe, just another problem or maybe over conservative restrictions. When using DDR333 RAMs, the BIOS will not allow you to manually set it to 400. Thus at 200MHz FSB/HTT, your RAM is stuck at 166MHz. Pretty stupid restriction I have to say.

  • Lan issues with the K8N NEO4 Platinum NF4U 939 Motherboard

    New K8N NEO4 Platinum NF4U 939 Motherboard. 
    After three or four hours the connection started to get unstable.  I am a high end gamer and any net slowdown I see and feel.   
    Using my "Ping Plotter" program i saw the issue.  The first hop to my router was going from 0 to 47ms.  On all of the other conputers on this network hop one stays at 0.
    In looking at the over all ping to my game server I noted that when hop 0 went to 47 it messed up all of the other hops and made the connection to my game server unstable.
    The odd thing is I bypassed the onboard nic's and installed a PCI nic and it did the same thing.
    I got with MSI and they had ne updare the NVIDA drivers.  This lowered the swing to 0-17.  I removed the PCI lan and am now back with the onboard nic.  I have replaced the DSL modem, cable and removed the dlink and the issue is still the same.
    This is my first computer with XP and at this point I do not know if this is an XP issue or a driver issue. 
    In installing a pci nic some of the network control is still done on the motherboard so that does not rule out a motherboard/chipset driver issue.
    I have set up a web site that shows screen shots of the ping plotter.  Please take the time to look at them and tell me what you think.
    http://webviper.com/LanIssues.htm
    Thanks for your help.
    Regards,
    WebViper

    Hello !!
    Please give more information about your system specs.
    But i would try the following:
    Download the latest nforce and vga drivers from nvidia ( if you are using nv VGA card ? ). Google for "driver cleaner" and download it.
    Restart system and press F8 to enter safe mode. Now uninstall all nvidia drivers(chipset & VGA), and run Driver Cleaner after it. Select the nvidia tabs and remove them....
    Now reboot, when prompted to install new drivers cancel this process. And start nvidia chipset driver setup, install all drivers but do not install the IDE driver from nvidia, you will be prompted for this.In first attempt you should not install nvidia firewall. Restart and install VGA drivers. Now test again your network connection. I hope it helps.... 
    Greetz

  • OCZ PC4200 Performance Series and the K8N Neo Platinum

    I'm going to be building a new PC soon and i've decided on the Neo Platinum but i don't know if the memory i've decided on will work or not (i've been hearing a lot of mixed opinions): OCZ PC4200 Performance Series
    Can anyone help?

    I have no first hand experience on whether or not that particular ram will work or not.  However, I believe somewhere OCZ tech states that their EB line of ram is more suited for the AMD 64 line.
    That being said I would find ram with tight timings.  I have used OCZ Tech 3700 gold Rev 2 with no problems.  Right now I am using Kingmax Hardcore DDR 500.  Im using timings of 2.5-3-3-5 1T @ 2.8V.  I found that enabling 1T timing had a pretty good impact on how the system performed.  
    There is a noticible difference (for me anyways) between 3-4-4-8 2T and 2.5-3-3-5 1T timings.  Benchmarks, UD grid, etc all improved with the tighter timings.  The A64 likes low latency ram, I suggest you cater to its needs.
    Quite a few people have had good luck with Crucial Ballistix ram also.  But for the money the kingmax was a great deal to me.  Good luck with whatever you decide.

  • Up and Running with new K8N Neo Platinum

    I got her going tonight. All seems good so far.

    Quote from: greyno3 on 09-February-07, 14:26:11
    I am trying to find the thread that was moved to the BIOS section? Can't find it.
    I've been really lucky with this OCing and putting stuff together. I'm self taught and 45. I got burnt in 1999 with a compaq presario 500mhz. I'm very poor and started reading. I did have a MSI board but can't remember what it was. Never used the new MB. OOOHHH... I just found the disk. It was a MSI M6340M.
    Thanks for the help so far and in the future. I am really tired of OC'ing the 2600+ mobile. Have I made it to the 64 group!?
    "I am trying to find the thread that was moved to the BIOS section? Can't find it."
    its in User modified BIOS since discuss modded BIOSes: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=105339.msg776983#msg776983
    "I've been really lucky with this OCing and putting stuff together. I'm self taught and 45. I got burnt in 1999 with a compaq presario 500mhz. I'm very poor and started reading. I did have a MSI board but can't remember what it was. Never used the new MB. OOOHHH... I just found the disk. It was a MSI M6340M."
    if you need OC tips open a new thread into OC section. btw what kind of board is that M6340M? sound like OEM product cannot find info as well.

  • No post! 4 Red LEDS on Dbracket! K8N Neo Platinum.

    I put together a brand new computer back in August with the K8N Neo Platinum as my motherboard. Here's a list of my components.
    Athlon64 3000+
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    Sapphire 9800 Pro Radeon
    160GB Seagate SATA drive
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    ComproPVR TV tuner
    Vantec 400W PS
    Anyway, the computer worked great until just after Hurricane Ivan came through. After our power came back on, the computer booted a couple of times, and then for no reason started giving me problems.
    The computer would start up for about 3 to 5 seconds with 4 red LEDs appearing on the Dbracket. Then power would then shut off automatically. I have not changed any hardware or software. I do not believe it is PS related, as I have tried my current one in another computer without problems. Also, I doubt the processor is faulty. I can't think of  a reason it would just stop working. Please let me know if you've experienced anything similar and if you know of a solution.

    probably a powerspike during the hurricane killed or almost killed a part of the pc, and it completely died right after.
    you could have a pc store test the mobo, cpu and sorts....

  • K8N Neo Platinum 754 Rocks!

    Just replaced my K8T Neo with the K8N Neo Platinum.  This board rocks!  Running 6-3-3-2 1T with Corsair Twinx C2Pros w/LEDS(2 x 512 Meg) @ 11 x 228 in Slots 1 and 3.  MSI Rocks!
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    Psygnosi

    True, after 2 dead msi neo fsr boards i finally decided to go for a platinum board wich turned out great  
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