Make HP7510 printer use other cartridge when printing black and white document.

Hi,
HP7510 inkjet printer.
Assuming normal black is used up. Will the printer continue with the
photo black cartridge to complete documets?
Can I configure the printer to do so?
Claes

The photo cartridge is used for graphics and printing on photo paper. You may be able to use the photo cartridge by selecting Photo paper in the driver settings. This is not a recommended solution - printing will be slower and it may put too much ink on the page. It may be an OK solution for temporary printing.
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I have at MG8100 and it seems that there is no solution to this. I have scoured the web for one and it seems that there is no way to print in black and white only. The grayscale option uses all the colours including black to print.
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I'm trying to print black and white on an imac i7, snow leopard, hp premium plus all in one (309g) printer. The prints have a slight purple cast. It is highly noticeable when the prints are placed next to older black and whites printed with an HP 8450. I print out of Aperture normally, but I'm having the same problem printing from preview. I use hp paper and inks, and the hp printer profiles.
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On 28 Apr 2010 Steve wrote:
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Posted: Apr 28, 2010 7:56 PM
I used all current profiles for the printer. However, I just tried something different:
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