Make to Order w Variant / wo variant in Ink Industry

Hi,
i need guidance on implementing MTO scenario in ink industry.
shd i go with variant configuration or without variant configuration.
if any one can provide me the difference/details in implementation difference b/w with variant and without variant in MTO scenarios.
thanks

Hi,
Before deciding to go for or not with variant configuration, I would like top know what is the base on which you have considered the necessity to go for the variant.
Basically the Variant Configuration is mainly decided by the PP module . Since as far as SD module is considered for us the Variant config will affect only the price of the product based on the characteristics of the product.
The following links will be helpful to get an overview of the MTO w/ and w/o Variant Config.
[MTO w/ variant|http://help.sap.com/bp_bl603/bblibrary/Documentation/147_Scen_Overview_EN_IN.ppt#6]
[MTO w/o variant|http://help.sap.com/bp_bl603/bblibrary/Documentation/148_Scen_Overview_EN_IN.ppt#9]
Regards,
Karthik

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Difference between varient configuration and make to order

hi friends please tell me what is the difference between variant configuration and make to order
regards
santosh

Hi Santosh,
[Variant Configuration|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2004/helpdata/en/d8/fa9bd49ede11d1903b0000e8a49aad/content.htm]
[Sales Order Management Make-to-order|http://www50.sap.com/businessmaps/092BF1DFEEB2456DADD0DD0284EBE8A2.htm]
Assign Points if helpful.
Thanks and Regards,
Naveen Dasari.

(You cannot make an assignment to make-to-order stock ) in variant Config

Hello Gurus,
I configured variant and executed. system generates Planned order and when i tried to convert Plnd order to prd order its give me message (You cannot make an assignment to make-to-order stock)
please let me know where i'm making mistake.
Thanks

Hi,
Check ur planned order and the master data of it if there assignment of the sales order is there then the system will allow you to convert this into production order.
check ur settlement profile assigned to ur order type.
Go to -
>md12-->put planned order num.----> go to master data -
> there you will find the sales order assigned to that order .
Then check settlement profile assigned for ur order type with standard settlement profile PP01 at OK07
Please use notes 432109.
Regards,
R.Brahmankar

Configure-to-Order (CTO) Production with Variant Configuration and Assembly

We are trying to create a Configure-to-Order (CTO) Production with Variant Configuration and Assembly Processing.
I have set up the required master data for variant configuration which is working fine in a sales order. I have used startegy group 82 in the MRP view of the material master for Finished goods/header material. A production order with BOM explosion is getting generated automatically during the creation of the sales order.I have stock of components available. Uploaded using 561 movement type (unrestricted stock).The requirement class that is being determined is 201.
ISSUE:
Availability check of the components in the production order that is getting automatically generated during sales order creation is failing. The components are not getting confirmed inspite of initialising the stock of the components in the plant we are using.
I am looking for pointers on the important settings related to the availability check in Configure to Order scenario that have to checked to resolve this issue.
TIA

Hi,
Availability check controls for Production order will be done in OPJK for plant , order type combination. Based on the settings either for creation or release system will carry Availability check of components. you can set the controls such that release can be possible even if parts are missing.
If you have settings to restrict the release if components are missing and there is stock in unrestricted, then you need to transfer the stock to the sales order using MB1B and 413 movement type so that system can recognize the availability and allow the release of order.
Based on your requiremnts you can map the settings in OPJK
Hope this will help
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Brahmaji D

Customer number not in the inspection lot for a make to order scenario

Hi All,
I know that standard SAP will get the Customer number into Insp. lot only for insp. types 10/11/12. I am wondering if someone know a way to get the customer no. into insp. lot for insp. type 04 where the material is make-to-order scenario and the Production/Process order has the Sales order and customer no. without activating User-exit. The quality users want to be able to see the customer no. in insp. lot without having them to go to process order.
It makes no sense to me why the customer no. is not brought into insp. lot when that is available in the Prod/process order, which can further be used to select the customer specific insp. plans for 04 insp. type Insp. lot without using Variant configuration.
Any light on this topic is appreciated.
Thanks.

Hi Srikant,
I guess.........
Normally the inspection lot refers the triggering document that are the trigger cause for them.
- Inspection type 01: - Purchase Order and GR material document.
- Inspection type 03: - Pro. Order Number
The same way...
The inspection type 10\11\12 are purely related to the SD, and directly integrates QM and SD. Hence in the inspection lot for the inspection types directly integrated to SD, it will furnish the Sales order number \ Customer.
But the inspection type 04 is purely have it's relation to Production process. So it will have the details related to integrations it has i.e. the "Pro. Order." Hence it integrates QM-PP, it have the data related to PP (Pro Order), not the SD's one.
But I think one way you can achieve it,
Assign the Customer number also to the inspection plan along with the Material. So I think at the time of assigning the inspection plan to the inspection lot, it will refer the Customer number also and will display the Customer number along with Task list Group\Group Counter, in the inspection specification screen in QA03/02
Regards,
Shyamal

You cannot make an assignment to make-to-order stock - Message no. CO684

Hi,
During conversion of planned order to production order in variant configuration scenario I am getting following error message....
You cannot make an assignment to make-to-order stock
Message no. CO684
Diagnosis
The component cannot be allocated to an individual stock because make-to-order production and engineer-to-order production cannot be executed with this order.
A possible cause is that you are trying to create an order with reference to a sales-order/project, where an account assignment to a sales order/project is not allowed in the settlement profile that is assigned to the chosen order type. This is inconsistent.
System response
The following responses are possible:
Order processing is canceled.
The system resets the special stock indicator back to the original value.
Procedure
Choose another order type.
Any ideas or suggestions to correct this issue..
Pavan

Hi Pavan,
This is one of the most common problem comes during MTO execution.And the real problem is massage no itself because you will get the same massage no. for many reason and that's it becomes more difficult to find out root cause.
Check below threads and settings,
- Order type for MTO is not maintain in Production scheduling Profile.Go OPKP or CORY and maintain Order type for MTO to it.
- [Thread 1|Error Message while cretaing a Process Order;
- [Thread 2|Error in Variant Configuration CO684;
- [Thread 3|error information when covert plan order to production order;
- [Thread 4|You cannot make an assignment to make-to-order stock;
Regards,
Dhaval

Make to order issue

Hi all,
I am trying make to order scenario but i am not getting the desired result. I created a sales order, run the MRP and when in MD04, i want to convert the planned order into production order then at that time the system in the "additional Data for MRP element" screen - in the field besides planned order no. shows me "make to stock". I am working for MTO scenario. The following are the settings i have maintained:
1. In MMR item category group is "0001"
2. In MRP3 screen the strategy group is "20"
3. VOV4 item category determination i have used item category as "TAN" only.
4. In IMG - sales & distribution - basic functions - AVC & TOR - Transfer of requirements - define requirments class. Here I have selected "040"
5. In define requiremen type i have used "KE -
040"
6. Determination Of Requirement Types Using Transaction - here for item category "TAN" & MRP type "PD" i have selected as 0 - i.e strategy group will come into picture.
I want clarification on the following issues:
1. Which requirements class to be used and what are the settings in the "requirements class". I want field wise entry.
2. Which is the requirement type to be used and where else this requirement type is to be assigned. I want for both SD & PP assignments.
3. Is there any setting to be done in AVC?
4. Is the item category determination correct? i.e i have used TAN for item category group "0001". Is it correct or do i have to assign any other item category.
5. Is the strategy group correct.
6. What are the settings to be done from the PP point of view.
7. In MTO say sales order is created for 20 pc and while generating the production order is it possible to create for 25 pc keeping in mind that 5 may be scrapped.
8. When the planned order is converted to production order and if there is shortage of raw material then does the system ask for the sales order no. while creating the "PR" and the "PO"?
I want the following results out of MTO:
1. when i convert the planned order into a production order the system should show the sales order no. so that the production order can be traced back to the sales order.
2. Suppose today I create sales order for item "A" 10 pc. 5 are anyhow in stock, so i confirm those 5 pc for that sales order and production order will be created for 5 only. Say after 10 days when the remaining 5 pc come to stcok then the system shoud automatically confirm those 5 pc for the original sales order only against which the production order was created.
3. I want to evaluate the fin. goods stock as per the sales order. Is it possible.
Efective answers will be highly appreciated.
Regards,
Allabaqsh G. Patil
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allabaqsh patil

dear patil
please gothrough this
Make to order Scenario
1. Make-to-order production is a process in which a product is individually manufactured for a particular customer. In contrast to mass production for an unspecified market where a material is manufactured many times, in make-to-order production a material is created only once though the same or a similar production process might be repeated at a later time.
2. You can use make-to-order production: (a) For branches of industry or products where a small quantity of products with a large number of different characteristics are manufactured (b) When a product has to be assembled particularly for a sales order.
3. Stock keeping is not usually carried out for products that are made to order. In companies using make-to-order production, the demand program only determines the production area, in which various variant types are produced. Depending on how you track the costs associated with make-to-order production, there are two ways to process make-to-order items during sales order processing.
(a) Make to order using sales order
(b) Make to order using project system (not relevant for SD application)
4. for make to order production using the sales order, all costs and revenues involved for an order item are held collectively at that item. A particular rule is used that can be changed manually to transfer costs to profitability analysis.
5. make to order production is largely a production planning configuration. It is also controlled by the requirements type, which is determined by three things
the strategy group (MRP 3) in MMR
the MRP group (MRP1) in MMR
the item category and MRP type (MRP 1)
6. Make-to-order production is controlled by the requirements type. The requirements type is determined on the basis of the MRP group (MRP1) and the strategy group (MRP3) in the material master record. In addition, a plant must be assigned for make-to-order items in the sales order.
MAKE TO ORDER PRODUCTION (PROCESS FLOW )
First Create a material with MM
Basic data1:
Give Material name : Cycle
Material group : 010
Division : MA
Net Weight : 10 Kg's
Gross Weight : 10Kgs.
Sales: Sales org.1 :
Base Unit of Measure : EA
Delivering Plant : RAMA
Output Tax : 1 ( Full tax)
Sales: General/Plant :
Availability Check : 01 ( Daily Requirements)
Trans.,group : 001
Loading Group : 0003
MRP 1:
Mrp Group : 020 ( Make to Order Production)
Mrp type : PD (MRP)
Mrp controller : 000
Lot size : EX ( Lot-for-Lot order quantity)
MRP 2:
Inhouse Production : 1
Schedule Margin Key : 000
Forecasting:
Forecast Model : D (Constant Model)
Accounting 1:
Price control : V ( Variable Price)
Variable Price : 4000
Price Unit : 1
Then enter & Save.
Material 769 created.
Create a Sales order with VA;
Order type : OR
Sales Organization : RAMA
Distribution Channel : RA
Division : MA
Sales Office : RAMA
Sales Group : RAM, .............. Enter
Sold to Party : 6000000000
PO number : 55 , PO Date : 04.06.2007.
Item Overview Tab:
Material 769, Quantity : 100
Enter & Save the Document.
Sales Order 8212 Created
Create Production Order with CO:
Enter Sales order number: 8212, Item No. 10
Order type : PP, Enter
Click on FLAG,
Select Generate Operation and enter NO,
save the Document.
Production Order Created : 60002725
Confirm the Production Order with CO15.
Enter Production Order No. 600075 and save the Document.
Now the confirmation Order will be saved.
Create Goods Receipts with MB31.
Movement type : 101
Order : 6002725
Plant : RAMA
Storage Location : RAMA
Enter and Save, you will get Document Posted : 50000068931posted.
Check the Stock Position with MMBE
Material : 769
Plant : RAMA
Storage Location : RAMA
Execute (F8), Here we can see the stock at Sales Order Stock.
Create Delivery with VL01N, Billing with VF01 and Post to Accounts
rewards if it helps
siva

Make to Order for Configurable Material & Error in Confirmation

Hello, PP Gurus,
I am doing one MTO for Fabric business but during the confirmation I am getting error that
SALES order Stock does not Exist as well Please inform me Costing procedure in this scenario.
*is it necessary to run MRP in this scenario?*
Please see the all Details of Business so that U can give answer properly.
One is raw fabric (Raw material) which has to passed different process to convert Colored fabric as my Finish product as well I can sale Raw fabric also.
is it possible to maintain raw fabric and Colored fabric with same mat.code?
I have configured the material as well all pricing BOM, Recipe its working properly.
How can I assign the material to Operation? I am getting GRAY field in New Assignment in change recipe mode ..
Is it possible to use Material type other than KMAT? I want to use Finish material type. If yes How?
Right now I can create Process order from the Sales order but I am facing error in confirmation that Sales Order stock does not exist than I have to transfered stock to Sales order and error get solved temporarily but I want to avoid this manual transaction to remove this error. Any configuration is required please inform.
My configuration is given below.
MRP Type : PD
BOM item Category: L Stock Item.
In dependency & Profile I have set radio Button as Single level Bom explosion.
Order Bom selection in profile.
Strategy : 25 make to order for configure material.
How can I do ? please suggest any changes
I have only 9 months of SAP experience within short time I have gain lot knowledge from this site and other reading material as well my learning Learning thirst.
thanks to all SAP gurus..
THANKS IN ADVANCE .... Definitely I will reward points even if my some questions get solved...
Regards,
Bhavik dangi.

Hi,
You can use variant configuration for selling the colored fabric. Use the basic fabric as raw. and maintain variant configuarations to have many variants.
Please use strategy 25. When you run MRP the planned orders will be generated and will be assigned to the sales orders. You can see it on the account assignment tab.
In material master pleasse maintain Individual collective requirement indicator to 1-individual in the MRP-4 view.
Then the stocks will be reserved to the specific sales orders.
Thanks and regards
Murugesan

Reg: system status NoMP(No make to order)

Dear experts ,
I am into PP module , i wanted to know one of the setting in SD module.
We are working on Variant config scenario (Make to order , strategy group : 25 ) ,
I observed one of the status profile "NoMP"(No make to order ) associated in sales order.when this will get appear and will get resetted..?
What is the use of this status profile in sales order.
From where this status profile is getting assigned to sale order . How can i change this status profile..?
I checked in against the item category in config level , status profile is not assigned , but in sales order its appearing.
Regards,
Daya.

Some what right direction provided by vemuri santosh kumar
FYI,
Cost - To be costed
NoMP - No Make to Order
Further, you can refer and review following SAP Help:
- Checklist for Cost Object Controlling with Sales-Order-Related Production
Thanks, JP

Make to order settlement

HI
Can gurus tell me what should be the settlement profile while using Make to order as when i am using settlement profile as SD1 which is standard then while creating Production order with respect to sales order ( CO08 ) system is giving error that "You can not make an assignment to make to order stock" but for the same order type if i am using Settlement profile as PP01 which is standard then system is behaving normal.
But as far as my knowledge in Make to order scenario, the settlement rule should be Sales order with line item number.
I am using strategy 20 and 25. Basically i am using Material variant concept in which when i am creating sales order, i m creating it using configurable material but as soon as i m selecting all the characteristics then system gives one pop-up and it shows the specific variant which is nothing but a configured material i.e FG. so the final sales order changed to configured material.
This is my scenario.
Please guide.
Regards,
Anand.

Hi,
The settlement profile assigned fororder type with standard sett profile (PP01) at OK07
The below are the some settings related to standard profile.
Actual cost /cost of sales = Can Be Settled
Valid receivers
G/L account - Settlement Not Allowed -
Cost center Settlement -Optional
Order - Settlement - Optional
Material - Settlement -Optional
Sales order Settlement -
Optional
Order Item Settlement -Optional
Assign this settlement profile in requirement class of make to order strategy which u assign in the material master.
I am not sure about it, sothat it can solve ur problem .
Use OSS notes 432109.
Regards,
R.Brahmankar

Make to Order Process - Business Requirement

Hi Gurus,
Kindly explain what can be part of good questionare for requirement gathering from business process owners for initiating project on Make To Order process.
Thanks
BMW

Hi,
In MTO scenario as far as sales concerned we want the material master how the Material could be like is it a configurable material, or finished produt, or configurable with material variant etc you have to check .
We have to Maintain Strategy Group in MRP3 View. But this plays vital role iN MTO scenario
In the sales order BOM has to be exploded at Sales order level or BOm has to be exploded at Production order level
The entire MTO scenario depends upon Requirment type and Requirment class
Becasue once we created sales order the requirments have to pass to production people u can find it in MD04 tcode.
Then PP consultants Run the MRP and they will convert the planned order to production order
In the requirment class you have to chek what is the special stock indicator is it valuated stock or non valuated stock
is it a sales order settlement or production order settlement.what is the costing sheet costing id costing variant, and one more thing u need to know is it unit costing or product costing
when u create a sales order they will ask u to mark up the sales order costing mark up in the sense u have tick mark in the application menu bar.
suppose if u want to recalculate the cost at order level then this marking is very important. u have to sit with PP CO and MM people this is an excellent integration scenario.
As far as the pricing concerned u have to check how many pricing procedures are required according to business requirment
hope it could be like this including tax or excluding tax scenarios.
So based on this u have to talk to the project owners u have to ask questions.
regards,
Murthy

Planning strategy for Both scenario of Make to order and make to stock

Hi
My client having Both scenario of Make to order and make to stock ,so please explain me step by step which Planning strategy is use for following situation
1.Forecast the production quantities for the variants and create the PIRs
2.sales order is created for variants
3.Planned independent requirements should consumed by incoming sales orders
Note:If it is MTO scenario i need sales order reference number in production order
With regards
Laxmipathi

Hi,
You can Define Strategy Group under SPRO>Production>Prod.Planning>PIR>Planning strategy-->define st.Group.
In this step, you group strategies together into a strategy group. You can determine a main strategy as well as up to seven alternative strategies.
The main strategy is proposed in demand management or in sales order management and can be overwritten by another planning strategy defined in the strategy group.
You can allocate the strategy groups to the materials directly in the material master record, or you can allocate the strategy groups to an MRP group and then in a second step allocate the MRP group to the material in the material master record.
Hope it will help you.
Regards,
Mukesh

Make to order /make to stock

hi
plz. tell me the detail process flow of both the scenarios i.e. make to order and make to stock with TCODES.

Hi
The difference between MTO and MTS is
MTO--> Make to Order Production is the process where the prodcution order is triggered from a Sales Order. Ex: The Prod process will start only after receiving the sales order from the customer. In this case the product could be customer specific only (Variant)
MTS--> MTS scenario can be accomplished by the following settings
Need to use strategy group 20 in material master MRP view-Stretgy group 20 is assigned to strategy 20
Strategy 20 is assigned to Requirement type KE (Individual customer requirement)
Requirement type KE is assigned to requirement class 040 (Indiv.cust.w/o cons.)
Requirement class has all the parameters where we can define Prodcution order type that will be used to create th prod order. The above link needs to be established.
Also the MTS can be achieved using Sales Order schedule line catagory which will be assigned to Requirement type/class. Item category is assigned to Reqtype/class and the Item category is maintained in the material master.
You can use any of the baove config settings.
For MTO --> you just need to have all PP cycle settings in place nothing special needed as it is a plain PP cycle.
Please let me know if you need any more specifics or have any perticular questions.
SAP online documentation has also all the details that you need
Thanks
Deepak

Make-to-order production with configuration( str type 25)

Hi,
WE are using above planning strategy. When we try to convert the planned order, we are getting following message
"You cannot make an assignment to make-to-order"
We have checked sap notes also.
Pl let us know what are the setting required in settlement profile.
Regards
Vineet

Hi Vineet,
This Strategy is for Variant configuration that is it is for congfigurable material for this you need to maintain in Sales view 2 Item category should be 0002 and the classification view you should have class as 200 or 300.
The get planned order you need to create the saleorder after that you need to run the MRP then you need to convert the planned order to Production order since this is make to order scenario you cant manually create the planned order and convert for that.
Regards,
Satish

Make to order and make to stock scenarios in prodcut costing

Dear Co Experts,
I am new to product costing, in product costing there are two way to estimate the cost of the product by using make to stock and make to order.
Kindly tell me the scenario of make to order and make to stock
In make to order scenario what are the minimum configuration steps are required in controlling, PP, MM, and SD.
In make to stock scenario what are the minimum configuration steps are required in controlling, PP, MM, and SD.
How we will defend the costing variant in make to order scenario
I really appreciate for your early response
pls tell me end to end cycle for both the scenarios
Warm Regards
Venkataswamy

Hi
In Cost Planning in Product Costing,We configure Cost variant
Costing variant is a A tool that contains all control parameters for costing, including
parameters that control how cost estimates are executed and the material
prices or activity prices that are used to valuate the costing items.
In Cost Object Controlling category a)by order b)by period c) sale order
a) BY Order,We create Co Production Order which will be used in Make To Order Production.
b) By Period,We create Product Cost Collector which will be used in Make To Stock or Repetitive Manufacturing
c) By Sale Order,We create sale order with linked to Co production order,We can use Make To Order Scenario.
Re: Repitative manufacturing
www.sap-topjobs.com/SpecialPP/samplepc.doc -
Regards
Edited by: Dublin on Oct 19, 2009 10:02 AM

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