Making Anamorphic Sequence in FCP Standalone QT Movie 16:9

Seems like whatever I try I can't get an anamorphic sequence to turn out 16:9 when I make a QT Standalone in FCP. They always come out 4:3.
Any ideas?
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Coupla ways. Open the file in QT and hit Apple-J... then with the top name (file name) selected... hit the Presentation TAB and check Conform Aperture to: CLEAN.
Or - IF you are using QT Conversion... use the OTHER tab after you set your quality to change SIZE to something that reflects 16:9 -- like 480x270.
Good luck,
CaptM

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I open the resulting file in QT Pro and it is displayed as 4:3.
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I have in the past opened this kind of file and have had it display correctly.
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In particular, this issue has actually gotten worse from 4.x to 5.x. At least with FCP 4.x, if you exported a QT Movie, then (re)imported it into your project, the clip would be recognized as anamorphic. No such luck in FCP 5.x.
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Now, I bring all this up (that I know you're aware of) because you state in a few posts that exporting via QT Conversion causes all frames to be recompressed and that's a big no-no. Can you share the basis of that claim?
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when I am doing some quick and dirty editing and correction, I use the method of cutting in FCP, then exporting that to a quicktime movie...I make the movie self-contained and select "Current Settings" in the Save box you get right after selecting Export>Quicktime movie.
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RaySkater wrote:
when I pull that exported movie back into a Duplicated of the sequence from which I exported (clips deleted, of course) I get that squashed picture with black at right and left.
I've retraced my steps a few times and other movies I've done this with turn out OK...I don't get why this one is not able to be re-imported with the proper aspect ratio.
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