Managing color - Photoshop vs printer

I'm using a Canon Pixma MP950, printing out of Photoshop on Canon's pro paper. When I choose to have Photoshop manage colors and select the profile for the printer/paper combination I'm using the results are WAY off. When I simply let the printer manage colors I get results very close to those on screen. Why would this be? I thought that by choosing a profile that actually matched my printer and paper I'd get more accurate results, not less. Also, if I send this image to a professional printer will their results be more likely to match the 'printer manages color' version (that looks like what I see on screen) or the 'Photoshop manages color' that's giving me such off-base colors?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Make sure that you turn off color management in the Printer when Photoshop manages color.
This article describes how to do it for Canon i960, but the setup for MP950 may include similar settings: (I know that IP4200 and IP6700 contain similar set-up screens.)
http://www.steves-digicams.com/techcorner/June_2005.html
In Photoshop's Print dialog, click Page Setup and set the printer as follows:
Main Tab:
Media Type: to match the paper you are using
Print Quality: Custom, press SET command button and move Quality Slider to the right as far as it goes (depends on paper you have chosen), Halftoning - Click Diffusion (on right)
Color Intensity: Manual.
Click Set command button next to Color Intensity.
Uncheck Enable ICM (Windows Image Color Management).
Print Type: None
Click Effects Tab, and make sure all boxes are unchecked.

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I think I have tried everything and all my prints look exactly the same (different from what is on the screen) so if anyone could help, it would be great! (This is a thank you pic for all the people who came to my wedding!). In all the of pictures, it seems like there is too much yellow and they miss some of the saturation.
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