Managing data files on Zen Xtra 6

I'm thinking of buying a Zen Xtra 60Gb in order to house and use my music collection, but also to act as a backup from my notebook pc.
The Xtra's manual makes some reference to data files - but will this work? Does Windows XP recognise it as another dri've, and can I just upload and download using Windows Explorer?
Please let me know what you think.
Thank you.
Stephen, Cape Town, South Africa.

You cannot "drag and drop" files as metioned here with this player. If that iss what you mean. So you could not back it up like that. But i do beli've you can still put files and documantation on the player.

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Trouble Transferring Data Files From Zen Xtra to Computer...HELP

Hello to all technical-savvy people out there in computer land, I'm hoping you can help me somehow, as I am frustrated beyond belief.
I have a Creative Nomad Jukebox, Zen Xtra, 30 GB. I used it for, obviously, listening to MP3's while I was out of the country in Australia, and I also used it to store data...all of my digital pictures and videos. When I got back to Chicago, I was able to download all the drivers and software onto my dad's computer from online, and was able to successfully transfer everything from my Zen Xtra onto the computer.
I am now at my mom's, and trying to do the exact same thing to her PC and to her laptop....neither of them want to cooperate with me. The computer recognizes the device, and can recognize the data, but it is unable to transfer the information from the device to the computer. I have done the following:
Downloaded the drivers/software
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Rebooted the Zen Xtra
Firmware upgrade
And I still can't transfer. I want to show my mom the pictures desperately, and it's realllly frustrating me. If anyone can help me out, my email is [email][email protected]][email protected][/url]
Thank you,
Sheryl

If it worked with the exact same drivers/software on one PC but not another, this suggests a USB incompatibility (especially as you've tried a firmware upgrade). It's not clear whether this is Creative's drivers and/or certain USB chipsets, but issues do seem to exist for some people with certain combinations of hardware.
Out of interest, have you tried a disk cleanup? To access the Rescue Mode hold down the play button and KEEP it held down, press the tiny reset switch once, and KEEP the play button held down until the player boots into the Rescue Mode. Choose Disk Cleanup from the menu. Note: Disk cleanup should not remove your tracks. It searches through the disk for files and rebuilds the index, and can be useful for correcting any strange behaviour.

Can't transfer Files from Zen Xtra 30

Hi,
first of all: firmware: 2.0.03 (latest one)
I can transfer files (let's take movies (700mb)) to my Zen Xtra 30gig.
When i want to transfer them back it says that there is not enough space available...
there is 20 gig free space on my mp3 and more then 80gig on my pc.
anyone got the same problem or can help me?
thx in advance

maybe good to know: i'am able to transfer small music files from and to my MP3.
Only the "big" data files fail

QUestion about the Explorer for Data Files on Zen X

I would like to put some of my school document files and architectural drawings onto the Zen Xtra as a Hard Dri've, but do I need to install the CD that came with it before I can actually put files onto it's

Hey,
Unfortunately, the Zen does not show up as a dri've when you plug it into the computer (it's not just the xtra, the touch doesn't either), I understand the plight that you're going through. You will need to use the intallation disk to install Nomad Explorer because you can do a transfer like that. I shows up as an item in my computer, Once it finds the player there will be a music folder and a data folder, just open the data folder and drag and drop. Hope this hel
ps.
I have a school laptop where all my files are but unfortunately I don't have admin rights so I can't intall the software/drivers so I use my home network and cds as well as my flash dri've to move any new files over to my home desktop to transfer to my zen. It works well for a weekly backup, that sort of thing...Sorry but you'll have to use the install disk. As long as your an admin, no prob.
Wilco
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Safing the files from Zen xtra

Hello,
my Zen Xtra mp3-player starts only in the rescue mode.
The following happened:
The mp3 player was no longer recognized by Windows XP. I have therefore extended the HDD and plugged directly to a PC. The file format has been designated as unknown. I have copied the files from the disk with Ontrack. I then safely removed the HDD and replugged into the mp3 player.
problem : I can not open the saved files.
problem 2: Now start the mp3-player only in rescue mode.
On the HDD I have nothing deleted or changed.
My Question is:
Is it possible to restore the files from mp3-player back somehow?
Thank you very much,
longhan

Maybe you are not understanding this. The file system is unique to the Zen Xtra. The only way it can be read is on a dri've that is INSIDE the player loaded with the same firmware as when you transfered them. Then you transfer them back on to the player. Like I said I don't know if it will work since I have not done it. If the dri've is bad you will have to install a working one anyway. You have already copied the files from it. If it is still good formatting>cleanup>rebooting will be the only way to attempt to get it working without changing it out.So you won't be losing anything. It will work or it won't.

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I called tech support once and they had me "clean" the hardri've --
didn't work. Then he recommended JBHTTP. I downloaded that
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This is better than nothing, but it will take a long time to remove
all 3000+ files.
I found a recommendation for NotMad on the web, but the free
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suggestions?
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JT

I believe via Xtreamer, in the trial version of Notmad, you can also download data files. But it sounds like the same process as JBHTTP i.e. slow and one-by-one.
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Is it possible to transfer files from Zen Xtra to computer whitout drivers installation ? I've got Windows XP.

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I've received a reply from Creative [see below] which is, frankly, a bit insulting, because it suggests that they never even read my original message to them. Needless to say, I haven't been able to solve the problem. I've written back to them and told them that I'd appreciate further assistance. To top it all off,?I can't even format the Zen Xtra so that I can simply use it as an external hard dri've. Does ANYONE have any advice on this matter? Am I simply supposed to accept that I have a defunct MP3 player on my hands?-- - REPLY FROM CREATIVE?** Kindly read till the end of this email before attempting to
troubleshoot.
While allowing your Zen player to run in Recovery Mode (if possible),
conduct a Clean-Up followed by Reboot.
The link below will guide you on how to run your player in Recovery
Mode.
http://uk.europe.creative.com/suppor...p?l=3&sid=4794
** You may first wish to back-up your files/data/mp3 in your player (if
possible) as updating the firmware may result in a loss of all these
files.
Following which, you may wish to use the function ?Search by File Name
or Model Number? to locate <<ZenXtraP4SAudible_PCFW_LB_2_0_03.exe>> for
download followed by an update of the firmware onto your player (and
monitor if it responds positi'vely to the update) via this link at:
http://uk.europe.creative.com/support/downloads/
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Control Panel\System\General.
The download for Windows XP SP2 is available at http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com
If your computer prompts that it ?does not detect? your player, you may
check if your player is actually connected to your computer via Control
Panel/System/Hardware/Device Manager.
You may also wish to remove any unnecessary USB connections from your
computer while charging/updating of firmware and connecting your player
to a USB port (rather than a USB hub) at the rear of your computer.
If your computer happens to already have been updated with the latest
Windows Media Player , you may wish troubleshoot this problem while
referring to this step-by-step link below at:
http://uk.europe.creative.com/suppor...p?l=3&sid=6737
** If this problem still persists, kindly repeat the troubleshoot
procedure again on another different computer.
I certainly hope the above step(s)/information will resolve your
query/problem completely and I look forward to your favourable reply
soon. Do not hesitate to contact Creative Customer Support Services
again should you have any clarifications in future.

Zen Xtra fails PlaysForSure Firmware update - Now it won't install a firmw

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I am having the same problem. Seems like to me creative and many of these other companies leave it for people like ya'll to figure out what is wrong with their OWN product LOL? I am having the same exact problem with my 30gb. Guess I will try what you guys and gals said to do and if no luck then would someone please let me know when there is a class action:smileyvery-happy:? I think it's about time companies became more responsible for their actions. Thank you all for figuring it out. I hope this works for mine. I think you all should send Creative a bill for figuring out their problem. I certainly will NEVER buy another Creative product again. i-Pod here i come

Creative Zen Xtra USB Driv

I need USB drivers for this player. Can somebody help me?

He is probably having the same problem I am.
All the drivers for the are installed before the player is connected. The Zen Xtra is connected afterwards.
The player connects with Windows XP, is recognized as the Creative Zen Xtra, but when after telling the system to install the drivers, it wants to connect with Windows Update to continue. After the attempt, it says that the drivers for the device were not found.
Looking in the Device Manager reveals that the Zen Xtra has a Code error - The Device is not Configured Properly. All the driver details are Not Available/Unknown.
I have attempted to install this player on 2 different systems with the same result. The Zen Xtra plays and otherwise functions normally. My Firmware Version is 2.0.03. One computer is an AMD64 with Windows XP SP2, the other is an AMD Sempron with Windows XP SPa.
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What is the difference between data file & control file

what is the difference between data file & control file

Dear Deba s
Control file
Every Oracle Database has a control file, which is a small binary file that records the physical structure of the database. The control file includes:
The database name
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The timestamp of the database creation
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/98/5dd5890f32274aa884e45e736752a2/frameset.htm
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