Managing hdv video

I'm pretty new to video editing and I just got my hands on a Sony HDR-HC1 HDV cam. I'm using FCE for my editing. I was wondering if anyone has some suggestions/tips for capturing the HDV clips. When I've done this with standard DV, I use the capture window in FCE and log all of my clips that way (which then allows me to delete the cache when I'm done editing and recover the clips with "capture project" if I need to). When I go to capture with my HDV cam, FCE only lets me essentially do a "capture now". It won't even open the capture window. I don't mind FCE capturing the whole tape with "capture now" and seperating it into clips for me (which is what I'm currently doing with my HDV tapes) but there doesn't seem to be any way to recover these clips if I remove the cached files. Is there any way to recover these clips if I clear my cache? Is the timecode for the clips even stored in the project? If I do need to keep the clips, does anyone have any suggestions to dealing with this obviously huge amount of storage needed for the clips short of buying a new external hard drive deticated for each project? And finally, is this just a short coming of FCE and does FCP allow me to use the capture window for HDV? Any advice on the HDV capture process with FCE would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks a bunch!
Oh, I should mention I'm using the most recent version of Final Cut Express HD in case anyone wants to know what version.

Sorry, by "cached files" I refer to those in the "Capture Scratch" directory.
When you say FCP5 works with HDV material differently, does it support logging and recapturing (with "capture project") for HDV in the same way that FCEHD does with DV?
Also, does anyone have any tips to share with how they manage to keep all the captured clips? I wasn't keeping copies on my hard drive with regular DV because I could recapture, but now it looks like I will burn through drive space very fast. Is just buying more external hard drives the best option? Thanks for the advice!

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I'm trying to capture DV video footage I've done years ago with my Sony DCR-HC40E PAl into FCP version 6. with my new camera HDV video Sony HDR-HC7 1080.i/mini dv so I can capture it into FCP but it's jerky, An yone know the setting for both the HDv camera and FCP to get the footage perfect as the rginal video.
Cheers

From the FCP menu bar: Final Cut Pro > Easy Setup > DV-PAL > OK. (Use DV PAL Anamorphic if you shot wide screen).
Menu bar once more: Sequence > Settings > Set Sequence Preset > OK.
That camera should detect the DV format tape and playback with the correct settings automatically.
All you ned to do is connect it via FireWire and capture.
For everything else, here's the manual for that camera: http://www.docs.sony.com/release/HDRHC5.pdf

HDV video is coming in as document files not movie files. What's up?

Upon capturing my HDV video footage to my scratch disk - using capture settings that have worked properly in the past, I'm getting not movie files in my capture folder... but DOCUMENT FILES.
I don't know what's going on. This is the second time this has happened. Can anyone shed light on this? Capture settings are HDV, 1440 x 1280, Apple ProRes 422 (standard). Sequence is set up as Apple Pro Res 422 (standard) as well. I'm using FCPS3.
I'll pop the tape in, hit log and capture, I get a box that I'll rename the clip in, hit capture and off I go. When the tape comes to the end, I hit escape, check out my clips and bam, document files. This is weird.

see this thread for answers and solutions:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2142286&tstart=150

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It really is very disappointing that after 3 versions, and 110 bug fixes, basic things like importing or managing a video file by date is still completely broken.
Even more troubling, is that for someone who uses LR3 this is a very obvious problem, and should be very easy to fix.
When you import a file on a wide range of cameras the date that is used for the video file as far as LR3 is concerned is the date you are importing it, not the date it was taken. This makes any management of the file, especially when managed next to pictures, very difficult.
The problem, as far as I can tell, is that in Windows, a file has both a 'Date Created' and a 'Date Modified'. 'Date Created' is whenever the file was created on the PC. If you bought a new computer and transferred a bunch of files over on 30/12/2010, all of your files will have a 'Date Created' that is 30/12/2010 regardless of when the photos or videos were taken. Or if you take a video on September 1st and import it onto your computer September 15th, it will have a 'Date Created' of September 15th.
'Date Modified' however lists the date that the file was last changed. For video files, that most likely was the date the video was shot.
Every program I have ever used for video files has always organized them by Date Modified (when organizing them by date). For example, its the default in Windows 7 Explorer when showing video files, all the video files listed by the date you have taken them. Date Created really doesnt have any useful information.
Its inexplicable to me why LR3 uses Date Created instead of Date Modified. It is a glaring error, that should be easily fixed. Microsoft can manage to do it right, as a byproduct in its OS, Im not sure why an imaging company in a $400 piece of specialist software cannot.
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D90 (first camera to shoot video)
D3s (thought by many to be the best low light camera)
D7000 (likely to be Nikon's most important DSLR)
D3100 (likely to be Nikon's most purchased DSLR)
Canon S95 (one of 2 most popular P+S for DSLR owners)
Fuji 31fd (Ill never forget you!)
And those are just the cameras I have on my desk, Im sure it happens to many others.
Also, when importing these files by date, LR3 will import them into a folder 1 date later then the date that LR3 is using for the file. So, just to be clear, you could take a video on May 1st, import it into LR3 on May 2nd and LR3 would say it was taken May 2nd, and it would be placed in the folder for May 3rd.
Im really not sure why something so basic has not been addressed in so long, and it makes any sort of managment of video files by date in LR3 useless.
Very disappointing.

I agree that the wrong file system date is being used. But I scanned all my Lightroom files (manually) tagged with 'video'. When the file contains suitable metadata with a capture time that is used. When that's missing, the (wrong) file system date is used.
Interestingly I even found one camera where the dates were originally right (in 2009), then disappeared for a while (probably due to a firmware upgrade!) and then came back again. Summary of what I found:
Very old (Philips) webcam / format AVI / no metadata visible / wrong date
Canon Powershot A80 / format AVI / metadata visible / right date
Nokia N73 cellphone / format MP4 / no metadata / wrong date
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Canon EOS 5D Mark II around 2010 / format MOV / no metadata / wrong date
Canon EOS 5D Mark II around 2011 / format MOV / metadata visible / right date
So my conclusion is that the camera makers are making a bit of a mess when they introduced video. Nikon introduced its video a year or so later than Canon. I don't know if "no metadata" means that there is none, or that Adobe just doesn't like the format. But given the pattern of the firmware updates with Canon, it looks like Canon and Adobe ultimately agreed on the format. But in any case Lightroom (I am using 3.4.1) has a bug w.r.t. its fallback scenario of reading file system dates.
In my case, the dates changed when I copied all my data from one disk (old NAS) to a new one (new NAS). It is disconcerting that you get the copying date despite comparison tools declaring the files to be identical (Beyond Compare 3 also keeps an eye on date differences).
Hope this helps, Peter

What are the correct setup and system settings for importing HDV video from tape?

I keep trying different "easy setups" and system settings/preferences in order to import both the audio and video from HDV recordings on miniDV tape to no avail in either FCE4 or FCP5. I import via firewire from the camera. My computer "sees" the camera and controls playback (I can hear the audio) but no video displays for capture (just color bars).
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The combination of all these helpful ideas solved the problem.
I set AV settings to HD and Apple Intermediate Codec HDV 1080i/60 AND set the cameras output to "locked" HDV. Funny, it had been on "A" (Auto) before and should have simply sensed the need for HD output. I then tried to capture using "A" again and this time it detected the difference between SD footage and HDV footage (I had clips of both kinds on the same tape).
I ran similar capture tests on FCP 5.1, FCE 4, and FCPX and all three programs captured HDV video and audio.
Thanks again everyone. Be sure the camera is set to output HDV or "A".

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I'm finished printing my projects to tape now, and when I'm not editing a new HDV project, each time I press option-R to render, it says "conforming HDV video". How do I turn this "off" so that it will just render out like it normally did in the past?
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Hi, can you tell me how you got the printing to video to work. I´ve tried now for few days to output HD material from my project back to my tape. I have a Sony HVR Z1U Camcorder. The sequence plays well on my computer and my camcorder even starts to record but there is no picture transmitted to the tape.
Where is the problem?
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Hi, I can't figure out why I can't render on my timeline. I highlight the segment hit "Apple-R" and it gives me a weird message about "conforming HDV video...." and the bar goes as far as 60-66% and holds there forever. It never renders even partially.

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Yes, I know. I have been working with HDV for some time. I am wondering why it doesn't render when it needs to.. the red and bright-green lines are above, and I've set the render settings such that ANYTHING I highlight and hit apple-R will render. But its not rendering at all.

What is the best format for HDV video for a computer playback

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That is pretty much the reason. It is fresh out the gate and so far untested. I am not an early adopter of any new technology (soft or hardware wise). I like to wait it out and see what other peoples' experience is. A bit of a prickish way to put it is: "In Chess, the pawns go first." (I'm a big Chess nerd -- I have Chess analogies for just about everything).
But even if the latest FCP, OS X and QT versions were humming along without any reported issues by the "power users" (by that I mean people who are editing on their systems 40+ hours a week in a professional capacity) I still wouldn't have upgraded because I am in the middle of three projects.
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In the old compressor, I had no problems (in earlier versions of my project) compressing the video. It always looked GREAT! In 3.03, I get weird issues that don't make sense to me at all.
In the older version of compressor, this never happened. Even on this project.
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Here is what I would like to try as my final attempt. I just bought yet ANOTHER computer. A Mac Pro/Two 2.8GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeo. I'd like to try to load Final Cut Studio on this machine, but where should I stop my upgrading? What is good stable working system for everyone??
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