Mandatory prereq training for 11g OCP !!

Hi
I cleared 1Z0-051 and 1Z0-052 and have attended '10g Admin I' training few years back but this training does not list in 'approved courses' list of prerequisite for 11g OCP certification. Is there any workaround to avoid spending money on mandatory prereq course (which is of no use as I am working on 11g for past 3 years) and make use of '10g Admin I' training as prereq ?
Please advise.
Amar

user7402120 wrote:
Hi
I cleared 1Z0-051 and 1Z0-052 and have attended '10g Admin I' training few years back but this training does not list in 'approved courses' list of prerequisite for 11g OCP certification. Is there any workaround to avoid spending money on mandatory prereq course (which is of no use as I am working on 11g for past 3 years) and make use of '10g Admin I' training as prereq ?
Please advise.
AmarI suggest to To Avoid spending any BIG money.
(1) Submit your '10g Admin 1' course as a 10g DBA pre-req exam and ensure it has been recognised for 10g DBA OCP
(2) Pass 1z0-042 and 1z0-043 for 10g DBA OCP
(3) Pass either 1z0-050 or 1z0-053 for 11g DBA OCP (1z0-053 is relevant for you as you have a 1z0-052 pass)
Difference is 3 exams (+ retakes) + time versus 1 exam (+ retakes) + more training (3 days courses cheapest) + time.
NB: 10g courses will not be accepted for 11g certifications (the reverse will however often be true)

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Can 10g course be used for 11g ocp hands on requirement?

Hi,
I recently cleared 1z0-051 and 1z0-052 and awaiting OCA certificate.
Can any one please assist and guide me on how to proceed to 1z0-053 as Oracle University in my area is not offering any 11g course yet; they are still offering 10g courses?
I do not see any 10g course on list of courses for 11g hands on:
http://education.oracle.com/pls/web_prod-plq-dad/db_pages.getpage?page_id=244#5
My question is, should i invest on 10g hand on to pursue 11g ocp?
thanks and kind regards,
Moiz
Edited by: [email protected] on Jun 30, 2009 4:48 AM

Hi,
I recently cleared 1z0-051 and 1z0-052 and awaiting OCA certificate.
Congratulations.
Can any one please assist and guide me on how to proceed to 1z0-053 as Oracle University in my area is not offering any 11g course yet; they are still offering 10g courses?
Thats unfortunate ...
Can I confirm you have checked ...
[http://www.oracle.com/education]
and checked your country and selected course schedule. I dont know what your country is but i see both India and Saudi Arabia are offering 11g courses.
You could try contacting your local Oracle university by phone, other options might be a Live Virtual Class instructor led course which i believe still satifies the requirement, or attending a course out of country / area.
I do not see any 10g course on list of courses for 11g hands on:
http://education.oracle.com/pls/web_prod-plq-dad/db_pages.getpage?page_id=244#5
Agreed.
My question is, should i invest on 10g hand on to pursue 11g ocp?
In my opinion probably not. But I dont know your exact situation.
One option would be to sit 1z0-042 .. ( i think the topics are 80% common with 1z0-052) , so if your head is currently filled with 1z0-052 then its possilby not too difficult to adject to 1z0-042 ... checkout the topics. You could then take 1z0-043 , take 10g training to get your 10g OCP, then take 1z0-050 to get your 11g OCP. Thats a long way round and a lot of exams to get to 11g OCP from where your are, and if you've not much experience of earlier versions of Oracle you might want to stick with 11g so you dont get confused between slight differences between the two.
Another thing to note is that the 1z1-053/1z0-053 has today 30-jun-2009 finished beta ... so it will not now be possilble to take 1z0-053 until the production exam is released which should be sometime in september, and you may want to plan round that.
If you really cant see any 11g courses , and have contacted your local Oracle University, then you could go to [www.oracle.com/education/certification] and look up the FAQ's under support and if your're really stuck then use support/contact-us.
thanks and kind regards,
Moiz
Rgds - bigdelboy.
Edited by: bigdelboy on 30-Jun-2009 15:33

Please guide for 11G : OCP pl/sql OR OCA sql, pl/sql , admin-1

Respected members
For better job prospects point of view which path should I choose for Oracle 11G Certification ?
OCA sql , OCA pl/sql , OCA admin -1
OR
OCA sql , OCA pl/sql , OCP - advanced pl/sql
Please guide.
Regards
Nilesh

naveenDBA wrote:
sir,
I want to write OCA please tell me which one to prepare eigther 10g OCA or 11g OCA.
Which one is better help me sir.which books i have to prepare for OCA.
thanks sir in advance
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXx
[email protected]
If you do not realise you have posted off topic for this thread then you should probably reconsider becoming a DBA.
And by publishing your email address you risk receiving unauthorised learning material.
Please become familiar with [www.oracle.com/education/certification]
and [http://blogs.oracle.com/certification/2009/05/the_route_you_choose.html]
If you cannot work whats on there out for yourself then you would be useless as a DBA.

Is training mandatory before appearing for OCP?

Hi,
I've scheduled OCA exams within couple of weeks. After that i'm planning to appear for OCP exams.
Is it mandatory to take training from Oracle approved institute before appearing for OCP? I have already studied a lot of materials and has been working on Oracle technology for past 3 yrs.
Also, I don't have so much money to invest on trainings which in US is around 1000$s
Is there any way to skip the training and get an oracle certification?
Thanks,
Gangadhar

Gangadhar Reddy wrote:
Justin,
Thanks for your response.
I'm giving OCA (1Z0-051, 1Z0-052) & then OCP (1Z0-053).
Can I appear for 1Z0-053 without training? Also if i don't attend training, then i'll be atleast carrying the passing result though not a proper certificate. Am i right here?
Once I clear OCP and then if i attend training, Will that count?
Thanks,
GangadharIts really important to differentiate between exams and certifications!
If people would do this like is easier!
And they also do not ending up claiming they are an OCP when the are not ... Oracle can take action including revoking exam passes and certification and banning from certification exams.
I stress these things because it is not only the Original Poster who read the answers ... it is other as well.
So please dont call the passing 1z0-053 exam passing OCP .... it is merely passing OCP. 11gDBA OCP is obtained when all the requirements are met .. including have training verified.
Now having said all that it is indeed perfectly possilble to take the training after having passed all the other requirements. The training courses are designed to help make this possilble.
Rememeber if money is an issue some training courses are shorter and less expensive that others. And sometimes WDP training may be cheaper (see http://workforce.oracle.com) though you would normally do this prior to your exam. Make very sure however the training you take is on the list of acceptable training for 11g DBA OCP or it will not validate properly and you would have to take further training.

Differences between 1Z0-042, 1Z0-043 1Z0-052 and 1Z0-053 and 11g OCP

Hi All
I have a small dilemma
For Christmas I was given a copy of OCA/OCP Oracle Database 11g All-in-One Exam Guide with CD-ROM: Exams 1Z0-051, 1Z0-052, 1Z0-053 (Osborne Oracle Press Series) [http://www.amazon.co.uk/Oracle-Database-All-Guide-CD-ROM/dp/0071629181/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1262090730&sr=1-5|http://www.amazon.co.uk/Oracle-Database-All-Guide-CD-ROM/dp/0071629181/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1262090730&sr=1-5]
As you will see in the book title it covers 1Z0-051, 1Z0-052 and 1Z0-053
About a year ago I attended the following courses
TT - Oracle D/B 10g Program PL/SQL-QA-IQ
TT - Oracle PL/SQL - GK
TT - Oracle 10g Intro to SQL
I have been meaning to get round to taking my exams and OCA qualification is no problem as I can take 1Z0-051 and 1Z0-052 using the above book and the knowledge I gained on the course (even though the course was 10g).
But my question surrounds 11g OCP and how it requires instructor led training - now I have done my 10g course but I guess this wont count as an instructor led course for 11g OCP.
If not then im going to need to take the route of 1Z0-042, 1Z0-043 to get OCP and 1Z0-050 to upgrade to 11g
So I would ask how safe I would be learning the above mentioned book and taking the 1Z0-042, 1Z0-043 exams. I understand there is no accurate answer as it is subjective but if 1Z0-052 and 1Z0-053 (11g) knowledge covers 1Z0-042 and 1Z0-043 (10g) knowledge then there should be no problem, right?
I really dont want to have to take the book back or purchase another.
Thanks in advance
Rob

user3554032 wrote:
Hi All
I have a small dilemma
Think of it as an opporunity
For Christmas I was given .... (Take me to your santa ...)
.... (snipped)
Thanks in advance
RobYour'e thinking sensibly about this. Well done. And the hands on course needs to be considered carefully and I often say this can be deciding factor in planning.
IMHO there is at least 80% commonality between the topics for 1z0-042 AND 1Z0-052 .... and probably similar for 1z0-043 and 1z0-053 whoug I've never directly checked this and there may be a greater divergence there.
Be aware some topics in 1z0-050 will not be covered in the books you have as far as I am aware.
One option you have not considered is taking exams in this order ..... this will give you 10g OCP and 11g OCP. This is wha I did .... but it mainly occured that for me way as the 1z0-053 was fairly delayed into production and I wanted the certificates I could have as soon as possilble .... ie 10gDBAOCP and 11gDBAOCA. I actually did the 1z1-053 beta for my 11g DBA OCP ... cheaper than 1z0-050 as I already had 11g DBA OCA.
1z0-051 1z0-042 1z0-052 1z0-043 1z0-053.
I know you dont want to buy another book, but the 10g ones from Sybex (and associated CDROM's) give a slightly different viewpoint (though they are for 10gR1 and are not updated for 10gR2 topics). IMHO the sybex books can ometimes go a little over the top in some areas. But all these books can contain some errors ... however they do provide an extra set of practice questions. However it is an option for you.
Its worth registering your 10g course as a hands on course as soon as reasonably possible to ensure there are no issues with it (I assume you have attended the course from Oracle University).
Anyway these are my thoughts. But you know your own circumstances and are responsible for your own decisions. Good Luck.
- bigdelboy.

Can i use "Oracle Database 12c: Performance Management and Tuning " training for getting certification on "Oracle Database 11g: Performance Tuning 1Z0-054"

i have taken "Oracle Database 12c: Performance Management and Tuning new" training from oracle university. Now i would like to get certified on "Oracle Database 11g: Performance Tuning 1Z0-054" exam. Is it possible ?

I essentially endorse and refer you to Matthews' and John's post above.
I would differ with slightly with Matthew because my guess is you would often be able to use like for like 12c training for an 11g certification ( I believe there are precedents). BEFORE ANYONE ASKS THE OTHER WAY DOESN'T HAPPEN.
.... but totally concur with Matthew you would ill advised to procede on that basis without one of:
- This being advertised as possible on the website : e.g. https://education.oracle.com/pls/web_prod-plq-dad/db_pages.getpage?page_id=654&get_params=p_id:169 ... option 2 show courses.
- Confirmation from Brandye
- Confirmation from an Oracle Certification Support Web Ticket ( http://education.oracle.com/pls/eval-eddap-dcd/OU_SUPPORT_OCP.home?p_source=OCP )
... The more common (and in my opinion usually better) way would be get your 11g DBA OCP ( or higher first) and then take the 1z0-054. I am almost certain they will accept your 12c course for the 11g DBA OCP.
If you are choosing the route of not being a 11g (or 12c ) DBA OCP first but are on option 2 and relying on the course for certification then the issue is more in the balance and you are even more strongly advised to get confirmation before proceding (remember if the rules need to be changed for you only then any profit out of the exam is lost).
In general my understanding is Oracle would prefer to encourage people to train on the latest version of product that is available for training and will prefer to avoid restrictions which would cause you to train at a lower version. ( This is simply my guess at Oracle University Policy ... personal opinion only).
Having said all I have said I'd encourage you to go with the advice of the earlier two posts.

Training for OCP

I wanted to know how to do the training for Oracle certified porfessional certification. I was interested in the approved instructor-led online course. I am aware that training + exam(1Z0-043) + hands-on course requirement form are the requisites for OCP.
I hope, my question is clear.
Please, help in solving the doubt.
regards

mani's wrote:
Hi Aman,
Since My query is also regarding the same OCP training and ur id ( lycos 1 ) is not working :) , I thought of putting my query right here.
Hi there Mani,
Well first, I am not sure what's the error with the mail id. Its working for me and I have just sent a mail to myself to test it out. Its really working! Not sure what error you faced and why?
Sorry!!!, for trespassing No issues at all!
>
in feb09, our company got us trained on Oracle 10g sql tuning which was conducted by an oracle university faculty in Hyderabad.
I am planning for Oracle Database 10g Administrator Certified Professional (OCP certification) exam and had a small query in this regard and no its not about exam dumps :)
The certificate that we have got from oracle says
Course " Oracle database 10g: SQL Tuning (Hosted) PRV"This has no problem. This means that the course you guys have attended must be hosted some where in the Oracle networks but not in your company. This is nothing but the title that the course was hosted by Oracle. So no issues as such are in it!
The doubt that I have is, whether this training will suffice the hands on course requirement for appearing for the Oracle Database 10g Administrator Certified Professional (OCP certification) ?Yes this training does qualify for the OCP10g course as its a listed course in the approved courses for the 10g OCP , see here,
http://education.oracle.com/pls/web_prod-plq-dad/db_pages.getpage?page_id=244#3
Any help in this regard will be highly appreciated
Hope this should clear the doubts and help you. Good luck with OCP.
HTH
Aman....

OCA for 10g ------- 11g OCP?

So, I just passed my OCA exam for 10g, but my question now is what do I do about the OCP? Do I take the OCP exam for 11g, or 10g? I know they were changing the format as of December 1st. Anyone have any idea? Thank you.

You need to complete Oracle 10g OCP DBA then you can upgrade to 11g OCP DBA (by passing 1Z0-050, Oracle Database 11g: New Features for Administrators).
Oracle Database 10g Administrator
http://education.oracle.com/pls/web_prod-plq-dad/db_pages.getpage?page_id=151
Oracle Database 11g: New Features for Administrators
http://education.oracle.com/pls/web_prod-plq-dad/show_desc.redirect?dc=D50081GC10&p_org_id=&lang=&source_call=
1Z0-050, Oracle Database 11g: New Features for Administrators
http://education.oracle.com/pls/web_prod-plq-dad/db_pages.getpage?page_id=41&p_exam_id=1Z0_050

Can I attend Oracle 10g DBA course & attempt DBA Certification for 11g

Hi,
I am already OCP-PLSQL and want to attempt OCP-DBA stream. I enquired at various oracle education centers and came to know that all are conducting courses for Oracle-10g.
So can I attend Oracle 10g DBA course (Mandatory Course) and attempt DBA Certification for 11g. (1ZO-052 and 1ZO-053)
Thanks,
Vikrant Patil

ukupatil wrote:
Hi,
I am already OCP-PLSQL and want to attempt OCP-DBA stream. I enquired at various oracle education centers and came to know that all are conducting courses for Oracle-10g.
So can I attend Oracle 10g DBA course (Mandatory Course) and attempt DBA Certification for 11g. (1ZO-052 and 1ZO-053)
Thanks,
Vikrant PatilYou can do these thing, and Oracle will take your money for it, but you will receive neither 11g DBA OCP certication nor 10g DBA OCP Certification at the end of it. So it isnt what you would ant to do.
Oracle Unviersity would provide the 11g DBA training courses ... No problem.
however I suspect what you term oracle education centers are probaby institutes offering WDP Courses at 10g DBA (on the cheap). See http://workforce.oracle.com
If you do 10g training then that will only be valid for 10g DBA OCP Certification .. so you would need to take 1z0-042 and 1z0-043 (I guess you already have an SQL Exam pass). Then 1z0-050 can upgrade it to 11g DBA OCP.
(Note that it does not affect you, but the converse is typically true .... version X+1 training will often be acceptable for a version X certification.)

Training for 1z0-051?

Hello all,
I have a requirement by my employer to achieve Oracle Certification. I passed 1z0-052 last week after studying off and on for the last year and a half. Next up is 1z0-051 or 061.
Fortunately my employer is funding a training class for this exam. We have 11g in our environment, so it is the 051/052 track I started on. I noticed on the 051 exam page that the recommended training is no longer offered. I'm planning to take the training class linked from the 061 page (Oracle Database 12c: Introduction to SQL Ed 1.1). Is this adequate/sensible training for the 051 exam? Or should I scrap 051 in favor of 061? I see that either will count towards OCA/OCP.
I am speaking out of honest ignorance here, but it seems that the material covered for 061 is completely applicable to 051. Any sage advice for me? Am I off track in my assessment?
Many thanks for any help you can offer.
-Alan

The 1Z0-051 and 1Z0-061 exams have about a 95% commonality in topics. The 'Introduction' section was added to 1Z0-061 and the 'Creating other schema objects' section that was in 1Z0-051 has been removed in 061. As such, the 061 training should prepare you for the vast majority of the 1Z0-051 exam.
That said -- there is no reason not to simply take the 1Z0-061 exam if that's what you are taking the training for anyway. I generally consider picking one over the other to be largely a toss up. Last week someone had the Oracle Press book for 1Z0-051 and was asking about taking 061. I suggested going with 051 since they had the study materials for it. In your case, the opposite applies, so I would suggest that the 1Z0-061 exam would probably be the (slightly) better choice.

OCE: 1z1-054: passing beta exam without being 11g OCP DBA ?

Hello,
I've question: can I take beta exam 1z1-054 (OCE performance tunning for 11g) without being 11g OCP DBA certified ? After sucessful passing of 1z1-054 I would go for 11g DBA OCP certification, and then submit hands-on-course... is it possbile? I'm aware that I wouldn't be allowed to claim that I've passed this OCE certification until I've gained 11g OCP DBA.
Thanks for reply.

You do not have to be an 11g DBA OCP prior to sitting for the 1Z1-054 beta exam. As a matter of fact, you do not have to be an 11g DBA OCP to obtain this certification. You may also obtain the certification by completing the required training course. You can see your two options on our website at http://education-dev.oracle.com/pls/web_prod-plq-dad/db_pages.getpage?page_id=287.
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Brandye Barrington
Certification Forum Moderator
Certification Program Manager

Need suggestion about 11g OCP

Hi All,
I'm 9i OCA and now want to 11g OCP. What is my certification path, is 9i OCA certification help me or I will need to do fresh certification in 11g.
Waiting for your valuable suggestion.
Regards,
Mritunjay

You have a couple of options:
1. you can go ahead and finish your path to 9i DBA OCP and then upgrade to 11g DBA OCP
- pass exam 032
- pass exam 033
- complete training
- complete course submission form
- receive 9i DBA OCP
- pass upgrade exam 055
- receive 11g DBA OCP
2. you can do the full path for 11g DBA OCP (which will include first obtaining 11g DBA OCA)
- pass exam 007, 047, or 051 (since you already have 9i DBA OCA, you probably have already passed one of these exams, or the 001 exam which will exempt you from repeating this step)
- pass exam 052
- receive 11g DBA OCA
- pass exam 053
- complete training
- complete course submission form
- receive 11g DBA OCP
*11g DBA path*
http://education.oracle.com/pls/web_prod-plq-dad/db_pages.getpage?page_id=198
*9i DBA path*
http://education.oracle.com/pls/web_prod-plq-dad/db_pages.getpage?page_id=152
Upgrade paths
http://education.oracle.com/pls/web_prod-plq-dad/db_pages.getpage?page_id=44
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Brandye Barrington
Certification Forum Moderator

Need to upgrade from 8i OCP to 11g OCP

I had my 8i DBA OCP a long time ago (2002). Now I'm planning to upgrade it to 11g OCP. I have a couple of questions about my options.
I know one of my options is to upgrade to 10g first and them upgrade from 10g to 11g.
But what about if I would like to take 11g tests, such as 1Z0-052, 1Z0-053? This will be my second option.
1) In my second option, will my exsiting IZO-001 (Introduction to Oracle SQL and PL/SQL) pass remains valide as an SQL exemption?
2) Since I already have OCP, will I exempt for oracle hands on training?
BTW, I already have an account in CertView and see all my certification information.
Thanks very much for any help.
Best Regards
Cindy

1004605 wrote:
I had my 8i DBA OCP a long time ago (2002). Now I'm planning to upgrade it to 11g OCP. I have a couple of questions about my options.
I know one of my options is to upgrade to 10g first and them upgrade from 10g to 11g.
But what about if I would like to take 11g tests, such as 1Z0-052, 1Z0-053? This will be my second option.
1) In my second option, will my exsiting IZO-001 (Introduction to Oracle SQL and PL/SQL) pass remains valide as an SQL exemption?Yes.
2) Since I already have OCP, will I exempt for oracle hands on training?
You will be exempt.
BTW, I already have an account in CertView and see all my certification information.
Thanks very much for any help.
Best Regards
CindyI dont have time to seek out the authorive posts from times past.
But for an 8i DBA OCP with 1z0-001 then passes in 1z0-052 + 1z0-053 will achieve 11g DBA OCP certification with no additional training.
I will often recommend raising an Service Request to confirm this; as it would be a very expensive investment in money/time if it were not to be the case.
Thankou for giving all relevant information which has made the answer easy for me to give.

11g OCP

Hi
I have completed the oracle 11g exams for OCA. I have left with one paper 1z0-053 admin workshop II to get OCP.
the url :http://education.oracle.com/pls/web_prod-plq-dad/db_pages.getpage?page_id=198&p_org_id=&lang=
says. Training+exam+form
What is training / form is it optional or must.
training cost is seems to be very high if its must. Please comment on this.
thanks
Raj

Hi Raj,
The training is compulsory and is very expensive as you said. Try and see about your employer covering the cost.
List of training options valid for the 11g OCP are found here: http://education.oracle.com/pls/web_prod-plq-dad/db_pages.getpage?page_id=244#5
Edit: Remember that the self-study CD Rom is not acceptable as a form of training...it has to be the instructor-led training or virtual class (because it makes more money).
Mike
Edited by: Dird on Dec 8, 2009 3:04 PM

Oracle 11g OCP certification kit

I have completed Oracle 11g OCP. As I understand a hands-on training course is manadatory to get the certification kit.
Can I do a Self-Study CD course or do I have to do Instructor led course?
Thanks.

information about that cert is here:
http://education.oracle.com/pls/web_prod-plq-dad/db_pages.getpage?page_id=198
note the link which says "Complete one of the approved instructor-led online or in-class courses."

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