Manual Accruals and Manual Payment in rebates

Hi,
what is the difference between manual accurals and manual payment in a rebate scenario.
1)can someone explain a functional scenario.
2) also iam aware that a credit memo request and then a credit memo is made in case of a manual payment.
what document type(debit memo request or credit memo req) is made in case of a manual accrual and why ?
regards
sachin

Dear Sachin,
In rebate process we ahve Manuall accruals and Posting accruals manually but I don't know about manual payment.
Please go through this SAP help link it will help you about Rebates process detailly in the Sales and Distribution.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/dd/561270545a11d1a7020000e829fd11/frameset.htm
I hope this will help you,
Regards,
Murali.

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