Manual selection of production version in REM scenario.

Hai gurus,
I discrete manufacturing we can several production versions and we can select the same manually
when we convert planned order to production order. Like this whether it is possible in REM scenario
to select the production version manually, if so what is the settings and procedure.
waiting for the positive reply.
regards,
sekar chand.

Dear Sekar Chand,
Are you not able to select the production version in MFBF manually ,assuming if you have more than
one production version for the same material?
What Tejas has suggested you is to start the planning process itself based on Prod.versions ---> MRP
run-> planned orders--> Production confirmation.
In case if you do not take MRP run and go for a direct confirmation also you will be able to select the
production version in MFBF.
IF not means revert back.
Regards
Mangalraj.S

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Good Day , PV will be selected based on the lot size and the creation dates.
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