Manual sort

I have a huge number of photos in a single photo album, these are sorted manually.
I would like to create a book from this album, but first I would like to duplicate the album and remove a number of pictures. However, when I duplicate the album the photos do not retain the manual sort. Anything I can do?
Alternatively, I can bring all of the photos into the book - but I would like to remove the undesirables from the book - can this be done?
I'm dealing with almost 2000 photos here, so I really don't want to mess with the original album, nor do I wish to resort a second time.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions!

Thank you, thank you, thank you!
Actually, the drag didn't seem to work (lost the sort), but a copy and paste kept the sort.
Thanks again - saved me hours of re-sorting!
But, since I have your attention...Is it possible to "remove" photos from a photo book, or can one only decide to put in the book or not?

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That is a good question, to do this requires two functions and a restart of Bridge all done automagically
Copy and paste the script into ExtendScript Toolkit
This gets installed with Photoshop and can be found:-
PC: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Utilities
MAC: <hard drive>/Applications/Utilities/Adobe Utilities
Start Bridge
PC: Edit - Preferences - Startup Scripts
Mac: Adobe Bridge menu - Preferences - Startup Scripts
At the bottom click the "Reveal Button" this will open the folder where the script should be saved.
Close and restart Bridge.
Accept the new script.
To use:
Tools - Backup Manual Sort
This will backup the hidden manual sort file .BridgeSort to .BridgeSortSave
Tools - Restore Manual Sort
This will copy the .BridgeSortSave back to .BridgeSort and will close and restart Bridge so that the manual sort is restored.
if( BridgeTalk.appName == "bridge" ) {
var backUpManSort = new MenuElement( "command","Backup Manual Sort", "at the end of Tools" , "backupms" );
var RestoreManSort = new MenuElement( "command","Restore Manual Sort", "at the end of Tools" , "restorems" );
backUpManSort.onSelect = function () {
var fileSort = new File(app.document.presentationPath +"/.BridgeSort");
var fileSave = new File(app.document.presentationPath +"/.BridgeSortSave");
if(fileSave.exists) fileSave.remove();
fileSort.copy(fileSave);
fileSave.hidden=true;
RestoreManSort.onSelect = function () {
var fileSort = new File(app.document.presentationPath +"/.BridgeSort");
var fileSave = new File(app.document.presentationPath +"/.BridgeSortSave");
if(!fileSave.exists){
alert("No backup file exists");
return;
app.document.sorts = [{ type:"string",name:"document-kind", reverse:false }];
if(fileSort.exists) fileSort.remove();
fileSave.copy(fileSort);
fileSort.hidden=true;
app.document.chooseMenuItem("mondo/command/new");
app.documents[0].close();
app.document.sorts = [{ name:"user",type:"date", reverse:false }];
Hope this works for you.

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Hi all,
I'll try to explain my situation:
I have Adobe Bridge CC installed on my computer. I use the "manual sorting" to view and manage my files (mostly .eps/.psd).
I'm moving to Win8.1 and I don't want to loose my manual sorting. How do I save/export my manual sorting in order to import it on a new Bridge installation?
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Francesco

I'm moving to Win8.1 and I don't want to loose my manual sorting.
Manual sorting is not meant for a permanent sort order nor is it designed to do so, when switching to a new window or other sort order you will loose the previous sort order. However there is a way to retrieve the last sort order used with a script Paul Riggott once wrote. But I'm not sure you can transport this sorting to a new system version because when you install a system from scratch you also need to recache the files for the Bridge Cache library. It might be possible to also copy the hidden file with the last sort order but that would mean a trial and error procedure.
Check this post, at the bottom is also a link for the site where you can get the script and how to install and use it:
http://forums.adobe.com/message/4748987#4748987
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Batch of files manually sorted in Bridge - Can I run a PS Action in that manual order?

For some jobs my workflow ideally involves manually sorting the order of a batch of RAW files in Bridge (the RAW file names are as assigned by the camera) and then using a PS Action from Bridge to convert, save, and rename the batch of files. I want to end up with my image files sequentially numbered in the manually sorted order.
However, my PS Action automatically processes the files in ascending order of their RAW file names and therefore my manually assigned file order in Bridge is lost.
Is there a script (or other method) which will allow me to run a PS action from Bridge on a batch of files while keeping the manually sorted order for the purposes of the numbering sequence of the renamed output files?
My current workaround is to Batch Rename in Bridge a copied set of RAW files as an intermediate step to running my PS Action on the renamed RAW file copies. It's not a bad workaround but if there is an easier way, I would much appreciate knowing about it!
Geoff

Geoff, here is an example that works for me. When I test ran the sample script based on some stuff that I do the files are process in the order of the manual sort and only the files in my selection are processed folders etc are ignored… I have NO idea how much people charge for this sort of thing I only do it for the learning process. If you can let me know what the Photoshop process is and your OS I 'may' be able to help but I make NO promises as Im still very much the learner with this stuff…
You can give this a test if you like…
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I am working with a large series of photos from a recent vacation, arranging the images for captioning and sharing as slideshows. I've pulled the images over to new albums, one per day, and would ideally sort them once by date, then change to manual sort and adjust a few images' position in the queue. But when I switch from date sort to manual sort, the images immediately revert to a relatively random-looking order that I think must be the order in which they were edited and then pulled into the finishing album. Since some of these albums include several hundred photos, the idea of starting over with completely manual sort of all of the images is VERY painful. Sorting them by date and then copying and dragging the sorted images to a new album, and then resetting to manual sort, reverts them to the same order they had in the previous album.
Any suggestions for how to fix the date sort some way, then do a fresh manual sort that leaves the date sort as my starting point?
(and is the question clear?)

Another thank you.
I could not figure out how to manually movie my photos & videos. "Manually" & "Reset manual" were greyed out in Smart Albums. So I deleted Smart Albums and just made an "Album." "Manually & "Reset manual" magically appeared un-greyed.
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It is not available because you have yet to create a manual sort for that Album, and so there is no "Manual Sort" available. Create a manual sort manually (re-arrange the photos). Then the "Manual Sort" menu choice should become available.
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The only solution I've seen reported is to change the dates of the photos using the batch change command with a increment so the date sort will be the same as your manual sort - you can search the forum for one of these posts - and I do not remember how they proposed to undo the date change
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Mavericks and iPhoto 9.5.1. Slideshow under Albums start at the end when photos are manually sorted, this was not in the earlier version. When sorted by date the slideshow starts with the first photo.

This is a know problem with iPhoto 9.5.1. Report you problem to Apple via http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphoto.html.
Currently the only workaround is to create the slideshow in the iPhoto slideshow mode and not directly from an album or event.
OT

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It is only affecting certain pictures, but not even the same ones in my different kid's albums. Frustrating...
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I really don't want want to rebuild the library because I have dozens of projects (books, calendars, etc.) that I don't want to lose.
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I have everything backed up on Time Machine, but if I revert to a few days ago, do I have to revert everything else too? I spent 4 hours yesterday on iTunes upgrading music to iTunes Plus, updating iPhone software, etc. and I DO NOT want to lose that work either.
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See my reply to your post in the other topic.

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I'm running Mavericks on MBP, I would like to manually sort my photos in iPhoto in order uploaded. Not in events, in photo view where you can see all your photos. I do not want to organize an album. I cannot drag and drop photos in order. Manual sort is grayed out, I cannot change this. Past answers to this question suggest if start manually moving things then the option will become available. I cannot manually move anything, it just won't respond. Help please.

You can't do what you want. The Library (whether in Events or Photos view) cannot be sorted manually. If you want to use manual sorting you must use Albums.

Manual sort in Smart Album?

I want to drag and drop pictures to reorder them in a Smart Album. Seems I've read you can do this but the Manual option is not available (gray) in the drop down. Any advise?

You're right. Manual sort in a smart album is not an option. Send a feature request to Apple at http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphoto.html.
You can select the photos in the smart album and create a regular album with them and sort manually there.

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I'm using iPhoto 11 and am trying to combine photos from three different cameras (so slightly different date/time stamp). I have copied all photos into an album, then sorted by date. Because of variation in date/time I need to sort manually to combine all pics from same activity. So after sorting by date I set view to sort manually. This worked just fine until I closed iPhoto and the manual sorting I had done was lost. Any suggestions?

from three different cameras (so slightly different date/time stamp)
Have you tried to adjust the time for the photos from the different cameras?
You can create three smart albums with the rule "Camera model is" to separate the photos from the three cameras in albums.
Then select all photos from one of the cameras and use the command "Photos > Adjust Date and Time". Now you can shift the time of all photos by the same amount, so that the dates in your cameras are perfectly in sync.
If you get the times in sync you probably need no longer to sort the albums manually, but the sorting should stick, when you close iPhoto.
Try to repair the iPhoto library with the First Aid Tools.
Press and hold down the alt/option key ⌥ and the command keys at the same time and launch iPhoto. Keep holding down both keys until you see the First Aid panel. From the panel select to "Repair database".

IPhoto 11 video and manual sorting..

Hi all. I was fortunate and went through the upgrade without any issues. Everything went smooth. However I have two issues after the upgrade - and still after updating to 9.0.1.
Videoclips: When playing a slideshow the videoclips from my camera are blue colour only. All colours are fine in thumbnails in iPhoto and when playing the clips separately.
*Manual sorting*: Has been totally messed up in some of my albums. Sorting by date works fine but the manual sorting is what I want and what I spent many many hours on to perfect my visual presentations. That work seems to be lost now.
I guess I have been lucky compared to the rest of you, but it seems like Apple has - one more time - released software without properly testing their new stuff.
Sad but true...

Create a new test library, import several photos, put them in an album and see if you can sort them manually. If you can this points to a damaged library.
If you can't sort in the test library log into another user account on your Mac and try the test there. If you can't then it seems a reinstall of iPhoto is warranted. To do so you'll have to delete the current application and all files with "iPhoto" in the file name with either a .PKG or .BOM extension that reside in the HD/Library/Receipts folder, reinstall iPhoto from the disk it came on and apply the latest updater.
If you can sort in the other user account then your account appears to be the culprit. It could be a preference file other that iPhoto's that's causing the problem. Post back with the results and if you need to test your account I'll give you directions.

IPhoto: How can I sort photos within an event? I can't figure out how to activate the Manual Sort.

iPhoto: How can I sort photos within an event. I can't figure out how to activate the Manual Sort button.

Only albums can be sorted manually. Events can only be sorted automatically according to one of the predefined settings "Date, Keywords, Title, Rating".
If you need a manual sort order, selectaall photos in the event and create an album: File > New Album

The new i photo won't let me manually sort my own photos. . . a must have for my business! can i revert to the prior i photo, or???

the new i photo won't let me manually sort my own photos. . . a must have in my line of work! can i revert to the old i photo, and if so how? if not, what are my options?

I have no idea what you are doing - folders in iPhoto do not hold photos - they only hold other folders or albums - and albums can be sorted manually - and again have no idea what you mean by you hade to "minimize the size" - adding photos to albums has nothing to do with their size
iPhoto is really easy - but does have a learning curve - under the help menu there is an iPhoto help section that contains several very good videos to helo you get started with learning iPhoto - the owuld be well worth the time to watch
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