Map simple variable to an abstract interface in BPM

I'm using a Simple Variable to count all messages comming through a BPM.
I want to use this Simple Variable's value in a Abstract Interface.
Does anyone know how to map Simple Variables to Abstract Messages?
A transformation needs a mapping, and a mapping cannot use a Simple Variable as input. The container operation need the same structure at both sides.
Kind regards,
Christiaan Schaake.

Hi,
Did you figure this out? If so, could you please share how you may have done this.
Thx

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Message was edited by: Christian Riekenberg
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