Mark of the Web Question

Can someone please clarify something on the new Mark of the
Web option on WebHelp output in RH6? Even though the option is
available when generating WebHelp output, the resulting output does
not appear any different than it did with RH X5 for the same
project (and still does not work with our VB app on a local machine
when the Active X security option is turned off). Now I see the
What's New in This Release topic in the RH6 help file lists WebHelp
Pro, FlashHelp, and FlashHelp Pro as the layouts that support Mark
of the Web. No WebHelp. So does Mark of the Web work for WebHelp or
not? Do I have to change my output to WebHelp Pro to get mark of
the web? If so, what other implications are there for switching
from WebHelp to WebHelp Pro? Does this mean I have to buy RH6
Server instead of plain RH6?
Sorry to be freaking out, but this is not what I
expected. Thanks!

Since we are speaking of the WOM feature, I am having some
diffculties with this feature too but with totally different
symptoms and ouput:
It is the Webhelp pro output that is causing me a headache:
when I add this feature and the web app calls on the help using an
online webhelp pro call (
http://server/roboAPI.asp?project=projectname
or
http://server/roboAPI.asp?project=projectname&context=ID>context)
the help page fails to load. Just a white htm page and exporer 7
seems to be lost and confused... Any ideas?

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Mark of the Web and Explorer stupidity

So, we are working on a very clever little program that acts as a browser independent bookmark util, and strips Google's tracking data. It's not a screen scraper. It's a bookmark utility.
It can also download images to local files.
As a browser independent util, bookmarks are written to html pages. We want an OnClick open in new window aspect. This is to reduce the number of opened browser pages\tabs and also to allow an easily returnable window handle to the Window that we
open for the bookmarks.
Works great with FF and Chrome and older IE. Newer IE on Win Vista 8.x does not open in new window. Opens links in tabs which (as we all know do not adhere to Microsft's Windows Hierachy Rules) so we can't use the db app to find the originating
Window, and therefore have to open a new one on the next Open Bookmarks call. hwnd values do not work with tabbed browsers, so don't suggest that. Neither does inspecting every running process for the process thread and backtracking, so again,
no lame ass responses, please.
If we add the poorly documented Mark of the Web tag to the page, then yes, we can open pages or images on the web in a new window. BUT, not locally stored files even with fully formed paths.
This is ridiculous.
In other words, an image on a site that may be compromised is now 'secure' using MotW, but a local file is not?
What moron at Microsoft thought this made sense? How the hell do you justify locking down a local file but leaving a web based one exposed? MSIE's security protocols get more ridiculous with every new wet behind the ears hire kid that you bring
on board. You guys apparently are big on rules that have zero real world application value.
Explain, please, (without the bullshit icacls Dos cmd run as admin), how a user is allowed to link to file on their own computer's hard drive, which I may add, they paid for - you did not - especially when we have, on download, checked the correct file sig,
to make sure it is valid.
As it stands, we are thinking that we should just give up on fixing IE's constant issues and just advise users to install FF.
I await answers that are competent.

I appreciate the offer to help, Rob, but this has nothing whatsoever to do with domains, pop-up blocker settings or anything of such a basic nature. Neither is this about css or scripting. It is about Microsoft's stupidity pure and simple.
And, btw, I am a pro.
However, I have now resolved the issue to large extent, and am happy to report that I can now use code to elevate permissions at will. I can also now hide content in files, including hiding binaries in simple text files. If Microsoft were not so
dumb, I wouldn't now know all this or have a need to know.
Here's something for you to ponder, assuming of course that you are a professional.
Create an htm page, with a link to link to say a text file or image file that you created. (So you created both the htm and the target file).
You want the target to open in a new window. Not a new tab. You want the new window to be re-usable. So you add a simple OnClick - New Window instruction to the href.
MSIE freaks out when it sees the Onclick instruction and delivers a restricted Script/Active-X message.
There are no script <> tags on the htm page - they are not needed, and there are no active-x controls.
This is a local page, not on a domain, not on the web.
If we tell MSIE to allow, it will open the page but ignore the new window instruction. (and of course, when we reload the page, we go through the same bull-crap again).
So we find that we have to add the bogus Mark of the Web tag. We do that and now the links do NOTHING. No error message, no explanation. Just NOTHING.
We find that we need to either add a Low Security specifier via icacls or use an Alternate Data Stream to add hidden clandestine values. If we use ADS, simply using the local Intranet zone, it fails. So, we have to pretend the file was from the
web, even though it was created locally and add an ADS to that effect.
All of this, just to link to a file that i created, on my PC.
The problem is that MSIE recognizes MOTW for the Onclick, but not for link handling. Very Dumb.
Since MS are strong advocates of ADS, why does MSIE not just write an ADS tag to say 'user says this file is okay'. Or, even obey their own rules for MOTW. Very Freakin Dumb and lazy coding.
So, because I had to jump through hoops and learn about crap I had no interest in, for something this simple, I now know how to do lots of stuff that some may consider dangerous, although it never occurred to me before. This has been a constant theme
with Microsoft. I learn more about how to hack a system than comply, simply coz MS is lame with documenting or does something as dumb as this.
So, thanks for the response, I have it handled. Although I saw about 30 questions from non pros asking why their picture of little timmy won't open, and am sure it has to do with hidden ADS and permissions, I just love how nearly every response from an
mvp is to reinstall msie.
Years ago I used to participate in ms security & db forums. Never ceased to amaze me how mvp types would always have people reinstall everything. Is that the first thing they teach in MVP school?
btw, as far adding a local folder to local intranet zone, can't be done. Of course it does not help that the little MSIE dialog is wrong with their examples, and has been for at least a decade.
Regards,
Gary

Mark of the web/template problem

I created three Dreamweaver Templates for my site. I inserted the mark of the web code to each template to allow me to test and preview pages without the pop-up messages. All of my pages are about done and some pages using spry and SWF files weren't previewing properly in IE so I decided that it was time to remove the mark of the web code from the templates. As soon as I tried doing this I got a message about data outside the HTML tag and if I continue changes to pages based on this template will not occur unless you insert the following code .
So I hit continue. I got a couple of other error messages telling me I did something wrong. I went back into my template and typed in the code Dreamweaver told me to enter. I saved the template and got some more errors. I didn't think to copy it all down at the time. So after all these nasty messages I'm not sure what's happened. So I make some changes to a horizontal spry menu and hit save. I get some more error messages about the changes will not affect pages based on the template. I have to cancel out of a couple of error dialog boxes. I load a few pages that were based on the template and see that none of the changes that I made to the spry menu on the template are reflected on the html pages created from the template.
So I go into the template and try deleting all references to the mark of the web code. Then I try changing the CodeOutsideHTMLisLocked="true"--> to "false." That didn't work. Then I tried deleting the entire line  thinking that if I just got rid of all of it that it would fix my problem. No such luck.
So now I start searching online for answers and I see some things about attaching and detaching templates. Okay, so maybe if I detach the template and then re-attach it everything will update. When I follow the instructions to do this I learn that the page is no longer attached to a template. That would explain why my changes in the template aren't updating the other pages. So then I try re-attaching the template. I open the assets panel, click on templates, select the template, and then click apply. Nothing. It won't let me attach a template. Template properties shows no template properties available.
Here is some of the code from of a page based on the template two_column.dwt
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />

<title>ONA</title>
<script src="Scripts/swfobject_modified.js" type="text/javascript"></script>
<meta name="Description" content="This page contains images of some of the former employes of Overseas National Airways." />
You can't see it the code I pasted but everything after 1999/xhtml is grayed out and you can't edit it.
So now I'm totally confused and have no idea what I need to do to straighten this mess out.

I thought I'd update this discussion and close it out. The reason why my pages weren't updating was because I
was using a template improperly. I had made the menu editable, which you're not supposed to do. The whole mark of the web issue was unrelated to my problem.

Issue with Mark of the Web, PDFs, and merged WebHelp

I'm sure this has come up before, but I can't locate the definitive answer.
I am using RH8 and have a merged WebHelp system containing a parent projects and 10 or so child projects. Previously, when I generated the WebHelp projects, I selected the Mark of the Web check box for the parent and all the children. Everything seemed to work fine.
Now, I've been asked to create a new child project with links to a large number of PDF files. After reviewing the documents on this forum, I realized I needed to (1) unselect Mark of the Web to see the PDFs in the generated output and (2) change my IE settings to Allow Active Content to Run from Files on PC. Unfortunately, while I can now see PDFs just fine, my merged help is no longer working correctly--the link from the parent topic to a project generated w/o Mark of the Web no longer works. That is:
If Mark of Web selected:
     PDFs don't work
     merged help does
If Mark of Web not selected:
     PDFs work
     merged help does not
How can I make everything work?
Thanks.

Are you testing locally?
Have you tried after publishing to the server? If not do so as that will likely make the difference.
See www.grainge.org for RoboHelp and Authoring tips
@petergrainge

Mark of the web

I intially thought that it was my computer that had a problem
until clients gave feed-back that they were getting the same
problem.
This is the pb:
when I include the mark of the web on the webhelp output (or
webhelp pro), when the help system opens the following error
message is systematically displayed:
"A runtime Error has occured.
Do you wish to Debug?
Line: 225
Error: Access is denied"
After a bit of debugging, it seems it the WHUTILS.JS file
that is affected. Apparently the msxml3.dll cannot be accessed and
that generated the error.
I tried all the possible fixes from the net for msxml3.dll,
and nothing seems to be giving me a solution.
I am working with XP SP2 with IE7 browser and using RH6.
Any ideas?
Many thanks,
Chris

Hi Peter,
Thanks for your reply. I sort of recall having this
conversation with you a while ago. Indeed I realise that webhelp
and webhelp pro outputs are different in nature: I use the webhelp
output to place the local help system on the disk that we deliver
to the client and place the webhelp pro output on the server with
the RoboHelp server for our customer support site.
Both outputs are compiled in clearly distinct folders and
there is no overlapping between the two.
The reason why I mentionned both outputs is because I am
getting the same type of pb with the same symptoms when adding the
mark of the web. Naturally, for the webhelp pro this does not
matter as I do not add the mark of the web for server based help
(which makes me wonder why Adobe has added this option for this
output and more importantly, why it is selected by default) but
just mentionned in order to indicate that this is not specific to
the webhelp output.
This said, my point was that when adding the mark of the web
option, I get the error described above whereas when it is not
added, everything works fine (apart from the fact that the active
content is blocked and the user has to explicitely allow active
content to be displayed). Therefore it seems that the inclusion of
this option is generating some type of error and I hoped that
perhaps someone else had encountered it and found a workaround as I
am unable to find a viable solution to this.
-Chris

HTML5 and 'Mark of the web'

Are there any plans to add a 'Mark of the web' option for Responsible HTML5? Without it, end users using Microsoft Internet Explorer must set a security option to 'Allow active content to run on My Computer.' I know alternatives are to use Chrome or host the Help system (or ask end user to set up a web server in which to host the Help system), but neither of these workarounds are options at the present time. Thanks for any help you can provide.

If you go to the index page of your output and edit it with notepad you can manually add the MOTW. Mark up is shown below.

It is a time saving device for when you are not loading the content from a website. When loading from a website the browser can see where it is coming from. When running it off your local hard drive the browser cannot see a URL and blocks the content. MOTW is placing an instruction into the web page telling the browser it is from the internet. I have exactly the same issue when using other Authoring tools so use this when I want to test on IE. Other browsers do not require this mark up.
Regards
Dee

Generate fails with Mark of the Web

Warning new Rh user
With that disclaimer out of the way maybe someone can help me
figure out this problem. It isn't critical. I am actually running a
trial version of Rh7 on an offline laptop and using a tutorial
document to try and learn the tool.
The laptop is using IE7. One of the scenarios is to generate
WebHelp SSL with and without the 'mark of the web' setting.
When the setting is unchecked I receive the warning about
scripts and ActiveX, but my Help content is displayed and I can
navigate through it.
However when I check the 'mark of the web' option and
generate my SSL even though the warning no longer is displayed I
only see my default topic and no other content. The tabs (Content,
Index, Search) display but do not have any content or function. I'd
appreciate any help or guidance.

Well Peter the result is the same (no content) but I do
receive a different message stating my security setting do not
allow websites to use ActiveX controls installed on this computer.
I guess I can go back and talk to my MIS folks.
Thanks

AWP and "Mark Of The Web"

I'm trying to add the "mark of the web" to the pages that run
the web player and it causes the web player not to run for me. All
I get is an outline box where the player should be. If I take that
code out, it works as normal. Any ideas?

> I'm trying to add the "mark of the web" to the pages
that run the web
> player
> and it causes the web player not to run for me. All I
get is an outline
> box
> where the player should be. If I take that code out, it
works as normal.
> Any
> ideas?
>
I never found that useful for Authorware content.
What problem are you trying to fix by using this?
Steve
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http://www.eurotaac.com
Adobe Community Expert: Authorware, Flash Mobile and Devices
My blog -
http://stevehoward.blogspot.com/
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http://www.tomorrows-key.com

Mark of the Web and X5

Hopefully a quick and easy one. What's the best way to add
the MOTW to an X5 WebHelp project?

Hi Paul
Unfortunately this one is not easy. Nor is it possible to
achieve easily. I've tried many times with mostly no success. The
fact you are concerned with MOTW seems to imply that you are
planning on delivering WebHelp output that will be run from local
desktops? If so, what made you choose WebHelp over compiled .CHM?
I'm not criticizing, just curious.
Cheers... Rick

Blue question mark on some web pages

hi i am getting blue questions marks on some web pages. like..... TheAVENUE.com i see the start page, and i see the pictures there, but when i go to click an link like sweaters, and the sweaters are suppose to pop up i see the blue question marks. this only only happens on a fewweb pages. any idea whats going on?
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thanks for your help, I called my internet people. and they are having the same issues. they are guessing they company is blocking us from viewing it. It happens alot though. My husband is in the military and we are stationed overseas. I will have to call them and let them know they are blocking our Ip addresses

Blue quicktime "Q" with question mark in the middle

Not sure if this is the same as blue boxes with question mark issue that others have discussed or if I need to tweek some quicktime setting, as I'm getting the blue quicktime "Q" symbol with a question mark in the middle. This ony happens on some web sites and I'm at a loss.
I justed switched to a mac, so any directions on how to sort this would be great.
Mac book Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Welcome to Apple Discussions and Mac Computing
Can be a bit confusing during the transition.
Have a look at this earlier post from today for a somewhat similar problem. Particular attention to the first part regarding the Quicktime and Flip4Mac settings. Also, make sure you have Flip4Mac installed, as Windows Media Player is not a Universal Binary application, hence can not run natively on your machine. Flip4Mac automatically converts the WMV files to QuickTime. And make sure your Flash plug-in is up to date.
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Safari Quicktime plug-in is showing me a Q with question mark in the middle

Safari Quicktime plug-in is showing me a Q with question mark in the middle.
Anyone know what this could be about?
Just upgraded to Quicktime Pro; then the Q-question started showing up as web pages were opened.
Don't think my QT prefs changed inbetween un-pro and registration.
TIA
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Hi Bill
Welcome to Apple Discussion
Several places to check
Safari Preferences>Security>Web Content: 4 boxes selected
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Make sure your Flash plug-in is up-to-date. Latest version is 9.0.45. You can check your current version here.
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Every once in a while when I open my mail or a page I get nothing but strange lines of symbols. Many of the symbols are black triangles with question marks in the center. I completely reset it like new, but problem still exists

Every once in a while when I open my mail or open a page I get lines of strange symbols like black triangles with question marks in the center. I have reset the ipad2 to new condition but the problem still exists.

A reset does not make tthe iPad "like new."
First, let's ensure that we agree on just what is a Reset...
Hold down the on/off switch and the Home button simultaneously until you see the Apple logo. Ignore the "Slide to power off" text if it appears. You will not lose any apps, data, music, movies, settings, etc.
If the Reset doesn't work, try a Restore. Note that it's nowhere near as quick as a Reset. Connect via cable to the computer that you use for sync. From iTunes, select the iPad/iPod and then select the Summary tab. Follow directions for Restore and be sure to say "yes" to the backup. You will be warned that all data (apps, music, movies, etc.) will be erased but, as the Restore finishes, you will be asked if you wish the contents of the backup to be copied to the iPad/iPod. Again, say "yes."
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So i have a 2011 MacBook Pro and when i turned it on this morning a flashing folder came on with a question mark in the middle of it and it keeps flashing. So i tried googling any solutions and up so far nothing has worked. Please Help ?

I tried googling several solutions, but so far nothing seems to work. Everytime i start up my laptop i press CMND+R to make it go to the repair disk utility but instead it takes me as if i have to install lion when i had Snow Leopard 10.6.8. When i do go to the repair disk utility, on the eft hand side shows two hardrives one is Untitled and another is Hitachi, i tried downloading snow leopard 10.6.8 onto a Re-writable disc using my windows computer. When i insterted it onto the disc drive it came out under SUPER DRIVE and everytime i double click on the CD it says something about attaching images/ I also forgot to mention that the MAC OSX 10.6.8 Update shows on the left hand side on the bottom in DMG format. I dont know what else to do, please help?

DestroyGalaxies wrote:
a flashing folder came on with a question mark in the middle of it
This is the firmware telling you it can't find a bootable OS X volume.
Usually to solve this all you do is hold the option key down on the built in keyboard while booting the computer, this enters Startup Manager and then you choose OS X to boot, then in System Preferences > Startup Disk you change it to the boot volume and it tells the firmware.
Everytime i start up my laptop i press CMND+R to make it go to the repair disk utility but instead it takes me as if i have to install lion when i had Snow Leopard 10.6.8.
What you have is a 10.7 or 10.8 Recovery HD from when 10.7 or 10. was on the machine previously.
The Macintosh HD partition only was erased and 10.6 installed on it, without erasing the entire drive like what should have occured to remove the Recovery HD partition.
So you have a mucked up machine.
i tried downloading snow leopard 10.6.8 onto a Re-writable disc using my windows computer.
Well there goes your problem there, your downloading illegal copies of Snow Leopard from a untrusted location.
10.6 is not available for download, except from pirate sites. You likely have malware or a compromised system.
I dont know what else to do, please help?
What you need to do is call Apple via phone, tell them the make of your machine and order the appropriate 10.6 disks, they are inexpensive now. Some machines that came with 10.6.3+ origianlly need machine specific disks, other wise pre-10.6.3 Intel Macs can use the 10.6.3 white retail disks.
Once you have the disks, you need to backup your personal information off the computer to a external storage drive using the emergency quick copy method, then disconnect it to prevent mistakes.
Most commonly used backup methods
Next follow this proceedure and make sure to select the ENTIRE drive on the far left with the drive makers name and size, this will erase the entire drive, then install 10.6 from the disk
How to erase and install Snow Leopard 10.6
When finished setup the machine and log onto the Internet and use Software Update to get current on 10.6.8
Don't use pirated software, it's likely been compromised in some fashion.

How does Azure Compute Emulator (or the Azure one) determine if a role is web project or something else ("The Web Role in question doesn't seem to be a web application type project")?

I'm not sure if this is F# specific or something else, but what could cause the following error message when trying to debug locally an Azure cloud service:
The Web Role in question doesn't seem to be a web application type project.
I added an empty F# web api Project to a solution (which adds Global.asax etc., I added an OWIN startup class Startup etc.) and then from an existing
cloud service project I picked Roles and
chose Add
-> Web Role Project in solution, which finds the F# web project (its project type guids are 349C5851-65DF-11DA-9384-00065B846F21 and F2A71F9B-5D33-465A-A702-920D77279786),
of which the first one seem to be exactly the GUID that defines a web application type.
However, when I try to start the cloud project locally, I get the aforementioned error message. I have a C# Web Role project that will start when I remove the F# project. I also have F# worker
role projects that start with the C# web role project if I remove this F# web role project. If I set the F# web project as a startup project,
it starts and runs as one would expect, normally.
Now, it makes me wonder if this is something with F# or could this error message appears in C# too, but I didn't find anything on Google. What kind of checks are there when starting the emulator and which one needs
failing to prompt the aforementioned message? Can anyone shed light into this?
Sudet ulvovat -- karavaani kulkee

Sudet,
Yeah you are right, the GUID mentioned seems to be correct and the first one i.e. {349C5851-65DF-11DA-9384-00065B846F21} means the web application project which compute emulator uses to determine while spawning up role instances.
You might want to compare the csproj of your C# and F# web projects which might give some pointers.
Are you able to run your F# web project locally in IIS? If yes then you will definitely be able to run it on azure so I will recommend to test it in IIS Express first.
Here are some other tips which you can refer or see If you are yet to do those settings
1. Turn on the IIS Express - You can do it by navigating to project properties
2. Install Dependent ASP.NET NuGets / Web Api dependencies (If there are any missing), Reference System.Web assembly
Also I will suggest to refer this nice article about how to create a F# web Api project
http://blog.ploeh.dk/2013/08/23/how-to-create-a-pure-f-aspnet-web-api-project/
Hope this helps you.
Bhushan | http://www.passionatetechie.blogspot.com | http://twitter.com/BhushanGawale

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