Marquee or Crop Box showing multiple aspect ratios (in CS2?)

Hi, I use PS CS2 and use a lab that prefers our images be in a 4x6 aspect ratio. At times I crop photos to minimize dead space and want to do so such that the final image can still be printed as a 5x7 or 8x10. I'm wondering if there is some sort of add-on to CS2 that would let me crop at 4x6 but have the crop box show extra lines that represent a 5x7 and/or 8x10 aspect ratio while making my selection. ExpressDigital Darkroom has this type of preview - just wondering if it's available for CS2. Thanks in advance for responses.

No. Crop is a core tool, not a function. Any such coding would have to be done by Adobe themselves, as I understand these matters. Maybe there is a dedicated cropping filter out there somewhere, but as someone, who doesn't qualify as a Photoshop power user, I'm not aware of it, not even remotely. Sorry.
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Inability to find images based on cropped aspect ratio is definitely pretty annoying. If I want to print a batch of 4x6 photos, I must now select the pictures I want to print and make sure they are indeed 2x3 or 4x6. This is just extra chore that would have otherwise been avoided.
What makes it really irritating is that LR already has this information. It can already display image based on cropped dimension, ie: 4752x3168, all it has to do is divide those two numbers and convert to a the smallest whole numbers, and you get the ratio of 3:2.
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HI,
I need a running start, could someone please help me accomplish a specific task.
1) I need to be able to restrict a crop tool to a specific aspect ratio, then resize the cropping tool as I like to make my selection.
2) After, I need to resize the image to a set size... (so all my pictures wind up the same size.)
After I would normally set my text the way I like it and add text to every picture (so it is the same size in all photos.) and save them.
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I just purchased Photoshop/Lightroom so I am in this with both feet, I could really use the help to get started in this because I need to work on this now or or go back to Paintshop until I can figure it out when I get the time.
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