Mass change of profit centers in Product Cost Collectors
Gurus,
My client has a requirement of mass change of Profit Centers in Product Cost Collector (Transaction Code KKF6N). Is there any way of doing this using LSMW or anything else?
I had tried with LSMW Recording, but there is a particular production version associated to profit centers in KKF6N tranasction, because of this I couldnt go to particular production version and update the profit center.
So, Is there any easy way doing this?
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Thanks,
Kalikonda.
Edited by: Alvaro Tejada Galindo on Jun 9, 2008 6:29 PM
Kiran,
I have tried with Recording and problem solved.
Thanks,
kalikonda.
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[Product Cosr Collector|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/EN/08/77ba810a1611d3a6b900104b55d538/frameset.htm]
[Product Cost Collectors: Collective Entry for Repetitive Manufacturing |http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/EN/08/77ba810a1611d3a6b900104b55d538/frameset.htm]
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Following link will be useful:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/5f/1faba54aee11d189740000e8322d00/frameset.htm
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