Massive ping spikes totally ruining gaming

Only been with BT infinity 2 months and already im not impressed.
Since day 1 ive had issues with gaming because of lag spikes along the hops.
Varying from 200 to 2 or 3000ms.
WinMTR has shown this today whilst trying to game
|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|                                      WinMTR statistics                                   |
|                       Host              -   % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
|                          BTHomeHub.home -    0 | 1147 | 1147 |    0 |    0 |    9 |    0 |
|                          217.32.144.166 -    1 | 1138 | 1136 |   20 |   25 | 1718 |   21 |
|                          217.32.144.190 -    1 | 1139 | 1137 |   21 |   29 | 1818 |   22 |
|                          213.120.181.50 -    1 | 1138 | 1136 |   23 |   27 | 1707 |   23 |
|                          217.41.169.215 -    1 | 1138 | 1136 |   22 |   26 | 1809 |   23 |
|                          217.41.169.109 -    1 | 1142 | 1141 |   23 |   27 | 1726 |   24 |
|    acc2-10GigE-3-3-0.sf.21cn-ipp.bt.net -    1 | 1135 | 1132 |   22 |   29 | 1728 |   23 |
| core2-te-0-13-0-11.ealing.ukcore.bt.net -    1 | 1141 | 1140 |   29 |   40 | 2151 |   38 |
|   peer1-xe9-0-0.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net -    1 | 1138 | 1136 |   28 |   39 | 1894 |   31 |
|      LINX.ae4-irt1.lon37.uk.as13237.net -    1 | 1138 | 1136 |   27 |   36 | 1756 |   30 |
|           ae1-irt1.ams01.nl.as13237.net -    1 | 1139 | 1137 |   34 |   45 | 1675 |   37 |
|           ae1-irt1.dus03.de.as13237.net -    1 | 1130 | 1126 |   37 |   45 | 1974 |   51 |
|           ae3-irt1.fra44.de.as13237.net -    1 | 1141 | 1140 |   44 |   51 | 2063 |   48 |
|          Cyberport-BER.de.lambdanet.net -    1 | 1141 | 1140 |   41 |   50 | 2219 |   44 |
|                       link11.ociris.com -    1 | 1141 | 1140 |   44 |   59 | 1881 |   54 |
|                          176.57.139.160 -    1 | 1138 | 1136 |   41 |   47 | 2035 |   44 |
|________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|
This cannot continue as gaming is virtually impossible
I want to know why im paying more money for infinity to recieve a poorer service

Do you have any wireless devices connected to your router when you're playing?
If possible, when you experience these huge ping spikes can you quickly access your router and turn the wireless off from within the settings and see if your ping improves.
I'm asking this because I started getting huge ping spike of up to 500ms and incredible outbound packet loss up to 70% which rendered games like Battlefield 3 unplayable (Rubberbanding like crazy...) and found out that turning off the wireless fixed the issue.
I managed to narrow it down to my Sister's iPad 3. For some reason whenever she browses with safari it causes my connection to go haywire.
Just a suggestion, might be worth trying.
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Cheers!

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The Robot voice, generally happens when you are low on bandwith. LoL should probably not take up to much bandwith 20KBps max, Skype will use approx 8-10 KBps for voice, in your case x 5 (5 players), if direct connected to your friends.
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Portforward Skype (google that phrase), or use UPNP to avoid relaying.
In your new shiny router, use QoS to reserve bandwith for Skype (see the manual, or use google like the rest of us).
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Hey guys,
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About LOL, if you don’t experience such spikes while ping the router or paly other game, then I think you should find Riot for some help.
There are many users talking about the ping issue.
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im having ping spikes throughout the day it seems is my ping suppose to go to like 200 anytime through the day? multiple calls to customer service and everyone i talk to doesnt know what latency or ping is!!!! and they offer me a speed upgrade which a tech told me not to take cause im out of range and last time it lowered my signal so much i got constant disconnects after a few weeks of the new speed someone help!
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Hi guys,
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Around 8:30 PM to about 11:30 PM, the lag just occurs nonstop. I'm not sure if this is maybe my ISP being overloaded or if it is something on my end. But I find myself getting disconnected from my game multiple times - my latency bar spikes up to anywhere from 1k to 4-5k range, which makes it completely unplayable.
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Hey try resetting the router reset button in such a way that power light is blinking on the router & then do a complete network power cycle i.e., unplug the power cables from the modem & from the router & then plug in the power cable to the modem first once all the lights are solid green you could plug in the power cable to the router & check out configuring the router once again & it will definately work!!

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My total ping times to, e.g., news.bbc.co.uk and slashdot.org are between 300ms and 500ms!
Anybody got any idea why this should be? Server stats below (I just did restart to se if it fixed it, but previously up for > 30 days).
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1. Product name:
BT Home Hub
2. Serial number:
+068342+NQ40726483
3. Firmware version:
Software version 4.7.5.1.83.8.204 (Type A) Last updated 22/01/15
4. Board version:
BT Hub 5A
5. DSL uptime:
0 days, 00:13:01
6. Data rate:
1245 / 13160
7. Maximum data rate:
1245 / 15407
8. Noise margin:
5.8 / 6.2
9. Line attenuation:
14.4 / 34.3
10. Signal attenuation:
14.4 / 28.7
11. Data sent/received:
82.2 MB / 10.2 MB
12. Broadband username:
[email protected]
13. BT Wi-fi:
Yes
14. 2.4 GHz Wireless network/SSID:
xxxxx
15. 2.4 GHz Wireless connections:
Enabled (802.11 b/g/n (up to 144 Mb/s))
16. 2.4 GHz Wireless security:
WPA2
17. 2.4 GHz Wireless channel:
Automatic (Smart Wireless)
18. 5 GHz Wireless network/SSID:
xxxxx
19. 5 GHz Wireless connections:
Enabled (802.11 a/n/ac (up to 1300 Mb/s))
20. 5 GHz Wireless security:
WPA2
21. 5 GHz Wireless channel:
Automatic (Smart Wireless)
22. Firewall:
Default
23. MAC Address:
34:8a:ae:a4:58:10
24. Modulation:
G.993.2 Annex B
25. Software variant:
AA
26. Boot loader:
1.0.0
Traceroute (my emphasis!):
traceroute to slashdot.org (216.34.181.45), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
1 192.168.1.254 (192.168.1.254) 1.077 ms 0.859 ms 0.890 ms
2 217.32.147.7 (217.32.147.7) 203.819 ms 254.410 ms 180.679 ms
3 217.32.147.46 (217.32.147.46) 182.071 ms 233.671 ms 248.483 ms
The first h 4 213.120.176.34 (213.120.176.34) 271.061 msi 263.083 msop 248.955 ms
5 213.120.178.69 (213.120.178.69) 248.750 ms 280.116 ms 298.236 ms
6 217.41.168.109 (217.41.168.109) 308.616 ms 290.864 ms 258.472 ms
7 acc2-10gige-0-0-0-6.l-far.21cn-ipp.bt.net (109.159.249.218) 239.436 ms
109.159.249.196 (109.159.249.196) 299.038 ms 306.960 ms
8 core4-te0-0-0-21.faraday.ukcore.bt.net (109.159.249.175) 298.522 ms
core3-te0-2-0-21.faraday.ukcore.bt.net (109.159.249.133) 319.051 ms
core3-te0-2-0-20.faraday.ukcore.bt.net (109.159.249.129) 309.169 ms
9 core2-te0-3-0-7.ealing.ukcore.bt.net (213.121.193.66) 345.984 ms 351.799 ms
core1-te0-0-0-13.ealing.ukcore.bt.net (213.121.193.32) 359.193 ms
10 transit2-xe3-0-0.ealing.ukcore.bt.net (62.6.200.181) 368.973 ms 379.243 ms 387.778 ms
11 t2c4-xe-10-1-0-0.uk-eal.eu.bt.net (166.49.168.37) 411.849 ms 413.047 ms 418.019 ms
12 * * *
13 ae-22-52.car2.london1.level3.net (4.69.139.99) 275.404 ms 268.676 ms 316.803 ms
14 ae-22-52.car2.london1.level3.net (4.69.139.99) 355.866 ms 373.232 ms 298.974 ms
15 savvis (4.68.127.34) 298.394 ms 275.429 ms 308.841 ms
16 cr2-te-0-1-0-1.uk1.savvis.net (206.28.100.29) 305.674 ms 351.448 ms 282.312 ms
17 cr1-te-0-1-0-0.chd.savvis.net (206.28.100.229) 376.566 ms 436.373 ms 397.586 ms
18 hr1-te-12-0-1.elkgrovech3.savvis.net (204.70.198.73) 448.977 ms 513.020 ms 496.489 ms
19 hr3-xe-8-2-0.ch3.savvis.net (205.219.95.122) 473.399 ms 197.456 ms 268.207 ms
20 das5-v3030.ch3.savvis.net (64.37.207.150) 282.015 ms 274.023 ms 258.929 ms
21 64.27.160.194 (64.27.160.194) 221.104 ms 276.241 ms 307.443 ms
22 slashdot.org (216.34.181.45) 259.786 ms 248.098 ms 269.407 ms
Any help or suggestiosn would be very much appreciated.

I don't have broadband with fibre! I have 2km of overhead copper, just like my neighbours. In fact we're off the very same pole.
Something's changed somewhere, though, because I now have much improved pings....
traceroute to slashdot.org (216.34.181.45), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
1 192.168.1.254 (192.168.1.254) 1.110 ms 0.759 ms 0.754 ms
2 217.32.147.7 (217.32.147.7) 16.001 ms 15.886 ms 15.702 ms
3 217.32.147.46 (217.32.147.46) 17.005 ms 16.515 ms 17.076 ms
4 213.120.176.34 (213.120.176.34) 17.999 ms 18.616 ms 18.291 ms
5 213.120.178.69 (213.120.178.69) 18.408 ms 18.407 ms 19.253 ms
6 217.41.168.109 (217.41.168.109) 18.861 ms 18.496 ms 18.654 ms
7 acc2-10gige-0-1-0-6.l-far.21cn-ipp.bt.net (109.159.249.210) 18.170 ms

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