Master data attribute Vs ODS

Hello BW Experts,
having the objects as attributes vs having them in the ods. which is faster in terms of reporting. ?
-- how do we decide if certain objects needs to be part of master data vs certain infobjects needs to be part of ODS itself.
Suggesions appreciated.
Thanks,
BWer

Hi BWer,
If from our logical model that we have derived as Infoobject is a Business Object that is required to many Infoproviders then the are defined as Master data and if they are required for the ODS on business reporting needs then they are placed in ODS.
But when it comes to reporting i think it is ODS it makes faster than reporting for an IO.
Hope it helps...
Best Regards,
DMK
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Procedure
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Transaction code RSA1LEAD YOU TO MODELLING
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Edited by: Ankit Bhandari on Nov 21, 2008 12:21 PM
Edited by: Ankit Bhandari on Nov 21, 2008 12:32 PM

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