Master data time dependant attribute in query for several dates

Hello all,
I need to create a query to display prices for a material in different periods.
The user will enter a period interval. For each period, they want to know the material price the last day of that period.
Material price is a time-dependat attribute of material, and I created one formula variable to display it. The problem is the using the key-date of the query only works for a date, but not for severals.
Is there any other way to do it?
If not, the only solution I find is to have in the infoprovider the prices that I need, but I don't think this is a good practice.
Any suggestions?
Thanks!

I have just seen something: in fact the created lines are:
Key1 Compound1 fromdate todate attr1 attr2
0001 L 01.01.1000 01.01.2006 <empty
so as you can see, the right interval is created but the attributes are not up to date.
Cheers.
Cyril.

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