Master page content area height

Hello
I have a subform within a master page content area,
The subform has table which i allowed the content to break to the next page.
When i try to get the height of the subform it only gives me the height from the first page and ignores the rest on other pages the table broke to.
I need the height of the subsequent pages in order to position another subform at the bottom of the last page.
Your assistance will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance
Tharage Ntakadzeni

Hi,
This post by John Brinkman might help. http://blogs.adobe.com/formfeed/2009/04/layout_methods_to_find_page_po.html
Regards
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