Master page graphic frame behavior

I am new to InDesign. I have created a master page that has 4 graphic frames on it. If I create a page based on the master and I try to place an image in each frame, it only works for the first frame. Each subsequent place just put the image into the page but not one of the defined frames setup in the master.
Can someone tell me why this happens? And if this is what it is supposed to do, how do I accomplish creating a page based on a master that has 4 frames to accept graphics.
Any help is appreciated.

I do not see these files because the path does not exist and i do not see where to show hidden files in system preferences. Can you elaborate?
InDesign Defaults:
Windows XP: C:\Documents and Settings\<USER>\Application Data\Adobe\InDesign\<Version #>\<language>\ (Note: Prior to version 6 [CS4] the language folder is not used).
Windows Vista or Windows 7: C:\Users\<USER>\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\InDesign\<Version #>\<Language>\ (Note: Prior to version 6 [CS4] the language folder is not used).
Macintosh: Hard Drive/Users/<USER>/ _______________XXX no library folder XXX ____________ Library/Preferences/Adobe InDesign/<Version #>/<Language>/(Note: Prior to version 6 [CS4] the language folder is not used).

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I know you're snowed under with this project. You might save yourself some time though, if you remember that styles are independent of any object -- you apply them to objects, and they don't "live" on any particular page.
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Hi
I need to make a simple task, yet it seems impossible.
I am making a large number of documents of the same type and stlye. Lets say, something like a diploma or a certificate. They all have the same design, and the only thing that is different in them is the text in the 2 text boxes each one of them has. Lets say if we follow the certificate example that on each card I must put in the same two text boxes - "the name of the person" and "the date". So I must set a nice master page with 2 text boxes that I can fill in for each card. Since the design may change, I need to be able to move the positions of the boxes from the master page after I have filled them. I must also be able to change the case, font and other text properties of each box. For example, I when I would have done 1000 certificates and filled in respectively 1000 names and dates of receiving and then I would decide that I must place the box with the name on a different position on the page and also change the text properties, say from Times New Roman to Georgia. And to do it from the master page or any other effective way without changing each certificate.
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cecozzy wrote:
Hi
I need to make a simple task, yet it seems impossible.
I am making a large number of documents of the same type and stlye. Lets say, something like a diploma or a certificate. They all have the same design, and the only thing that is different in them is the text in the 2 text boxes each one of them has. Lets say if we follow the certificate example that on each card I must put in the same two text boxes - "the name of the person" and "the date". So I must set a nice master page with 2 text boxes that I can fill in for each card. Since the design may change, I need to be able to move the positions of the boxes from the master page after I have filled them. I must also be able to change the case, font and other text properties of each box. For example, I when I would have done 1000 certificates and filled in respectively 1000 names and dates of receiving and then I would decide that I must place the box with the name on a different position on the page and also change the text properties, say from Times New Roman to Georgia. And to do it from the master page or any other effective way without changing each certificate.
So far, I managed to place the boxes on the master page, and I saw that I can overwrite the text in each certificate and still be able to move the position of all boxes from the master page. But I cannot find a way to change the text properties of all boxes.
Thank you for your help!
With a long list of data items, you could consider using data merge. You'd need a template document; on its page create a placeholder text frame for each data item, like name and date, if they'll need individual positioning. Put a data placeholder in each frame. (It's also possible to insert multiple merge placeholders in a single frame.) You'd also need paragraph styles. If you have material that is the same on every page, put that on a master page in the merge template.
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HTH
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FW CS3...
As I see it, a common use for "Pages" in CS3 would be to have
one page for
the "homepage" of a site and another for each major
section... For all the
common elements (like the main BG i use a master page). In my
example I
would also like ot have a sepearte page for the main nav. The
nav page will
have 2 frames: one for the normal state and one for the over
state.
Makes sense so far...
Problem is that the "master page" layer that I see in the
layers pallette
when my Nav page is active does not share across the 2
frames... I can
duplicate the appropriate background areas, but that defeats
the purpose of
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I feel like I am missing something when it comes to using
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Thats a valid point, but with normal layers (as oposed to the
"Master Page"
layer) you get to pick whether or not the layer is shared
across frames ...
why not with teh "Master Page" layer?
A
"deebs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:ffvq9n$kbp$[email protected]..
> One thought is:
>
> one approach may be fine for website but how about
animated GIFs? (I still
> like to lay with animated GIFs)
>
> So, in the case of animated GIFs one may wish to have
one background for a
> few frames and a different background for others. It
seems to add a bit
> of complexity?
>
> Alexander Ross wrote:
>> FW CS3...
>>
>> As I see it, a common use for "Pages" in CS3 would
be to have one page
>> for the "homepage" of a site and another for each
major section... For
>> all the common elements (like the main BG i use a
master page). In my
>> example I would also like ot have a sepearte page
for the main nav. The
>> nav page will have 2 frames: one for the normal
state and one for the
>> over state.
>>
>> Makes sense so far...
>>
>> Problem is that the "master page" layer that I see
in the layers pallette
>> when my Nav page is active does not share across the
2 frames... I can
>> duplicate the appropriate background areas, but that
defeats the purpose
>> of having a master page layer doesn't it.
>>
>> I feel like I am missing something when it comes to
using frames and
>> pages appropriately. Thoughts?
>>
>> Alex

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