Master page markers are broken.

ID6.0.4 / MacPro OS10.5.8 Intel
Type > Insert Special Characters > Markers > Next Page Number does not function correctly. It inserts the current page number, not the next page number. Sure would be nice if it were fixed.
Filed with the general Adobe bug report form, but thought I'd post it here in case any of the ID team is watching.

The next/previous markers require that the frame containing them touch a threaded frame to calculate where the next page in the thread is located. As a master item they really aren't on the page with with the thread so won't interact with the other frames. If you feel strongly that this should change, you can file a bug at Adobe - Feature Request/Bug Report Form, but personally I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for it to change.
In the meantime, think about this workaround. Select all master items you DON"T want to override, then from the panel menu uncheck "Allow Master Overrides On Selection." Now you can select all pages and override all master items at once, and only the items you didn't select will actually be overridden. Want to move something? Go back to the master and remove the local override, then repeat after your edit.

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I have a subform within a master page content area,
The subform has table which i allowed the content to break to the next page.
When i try to get the height of the subform it only gives me the height from the first page and ignores the rest on other pages the table broke to.
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dear KN
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G

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Hi Otto,
I will try explaining the scenario...
The form has to support back side printing and will be archived, sent by mail and by fax.
The main content of the form will be on the front pages only and on the back side of the first page, the terms and conditions are printed.
the rest of the back pages remain blank.
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ADOBE: How to print a table only on uneven pages and a text on the back?
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